Undertone

[SPEAKER_02]: I know we've been doing a recording schedule of the podcast where, you know, we record on Sunday afternoons, but have you considered only recording our show in 10 minute increments every three days and only at 3 a.m. [SPEAKER_02]: It seemed to work for the people in undertone until, you know, you know, what happened.

[SPEAKER_02]: Just got out of the movie, I'm sitting in the McDonald's bar right now. [SPEAKER_02]: Also just a piece of context about my experience. [SPEAKER_02]: I saw the movie by myself, but my husband came with me to the theater because he just felt like seeing a movie as well, but he does, he's too scared of horror movies. [SPEAKER_02]: So now I have to wait for him at the McEffins bar while he finishes the Revenant, a movie that is a full hour longer. [SPEAKER_02]: I can't wait to talk to you about this.

[SPEAKER_00]: What did you think? [SPEAKER_00]: that is about haunted voice notes in a podcast does feel insane. [SPEAKER_00]: It feels like seeing the conjuring and then going out and buying a scary porcelain doll. [SPEAKER_00]: But um, I liked it. [SPEAKER_00]: I liked it. [SPEAKER_00]: I [SPEAKER_00]: was kind of scared the whole time as someone who's only ever lived in apartments. [SPEAKER_00]: Basically, this is what I'm imagining is happening in all houses all the time. [SPEAKER_00]: Too many rooms, scary, but I'm excited to talk about it.

[SPEAKER_00]: You know, I love where I move views.

[SPEAKER_02]: Hi, welcome to medium literate, the show where two best friends try to sharpen their media literacy skills by having a long conversation about a movie in theaters each week. [SPEAKER_02]: My name is Monica Scott, my co-host is Emily Fay. [SPEAKER_02]: This week we're going to be talking about the movie, under tone, by Ian Tooawson. [SPEAKER_02]: If you are listening to the audio of this, please know that we have a YouTube channel where you can see our beautiful faces and one last reminder, if you haven't seen the movie yet, we are going to dive really much immediately into spoilers for this movie.

[SPEAKER_02]: It's a horror movie, so you might actually want to watch it first, or you can decide you don't care and you love spoilers. [SPEAKER_02]: Um, either way, we're about to have the conversation, so thank you for listening.

[SPEAKER_02]: Did you notice in this movie that there was a focus right scarlet? [SPEAKER_02]: No. [SPEAKER_02]: I clocked it. [SPEAKER_02]: Podcasts could be. [SPEAKER_00]: I mean, I thought it was so cute that it was a podcast about long distance best friends.

[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, it was a long distance best friend's podcast and I was like, oh, that's us. [SPEAKER_02]: Uh, yeah, it is true. [SPEAKER_02]: And that was nice. [SPEAKER_02]: And he was in London. [SPEAKER_02]: I think as they said at one point. [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I guess they were farther apart than us, but that just means you don't have to record it three a.m. [SPEAKER_00]: Which is good. [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, that was my, that was my first note for this movie was like, uh, it's actually not a super efficient way to record a podcast in 10 minute increments once every three days at 3 a.m. only.

[SPEAKER_00]: it was the least efficient thing I've ever seen like every every time it was like okay should we just that that was good let's call it and do this in three days and like how are you guys ever releasing any episode [SPEAKER_02]: I know in the beginning they said they released weekly on Fridays and that was my first thought I was like There's no fucking way. [SPEAKER_00]: No, it was like how is that possible? [SPEAKER_00]: Unless it is a 20 minute episode That it would take a new three days to record Yeah, that really was standing out to me through it.

[SPEAKER_02]: I mean I get why that you know story wise. [SPEAKER_02]: I understand but [SPEAKER_02]: It's just, you know, don't take your podcasting advice from this movie. [SPEAKER_02]: I think it's my first note. [SPEAKER_00]: Every time it was just like, guys, just keep going. [SPEAKER_00]: Especially there was one where he was like, okay, it's cool. [SPEAKER_00]: I got to leave for work anyways. [SPEAKER_00]: It's like, okay, so you planned to only record for 10 minutes before you had to leave for work.

[SPEAKER_00]: That's such a poor planning. [SPEAKER_00]: You could have done this at two a.m. for her. [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, insane. [SPEAKER_02]: Um, I'm going to, I think we should start from farther back. [SPEAKER_02]: Yes. [SPEAKER_00]: Also, did you like it? [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, it was to say, what did you think of this movie? [SPEAKER_02]: I have a very complicated answer. [SPEAKER_02]: So let's actually talk to you about it first. [SPEAKER_00]: Okay. [SPEAKER_00]: I, well, I would like to first set the scene.

[SPEAKER_00]: Okay. [SPEAKER_00]: Okay. [SPEAKER_00]: I went to the Grove and I walk in and [SPEAKER_00]: They were already doing construction on some of the screens, I think, but then when you walk in, just straight ahead is like the whole concession area. [SPEAKER_00]: And it's all just like blacked out with some weird blacks. [SPEAKER_00]: It was so eerie. [SPEAKER_00]: And like also, they're lucky. [SPEAKER_00]: I didn't plan on [SPEAKER_00]: I didn't, I had banana bread in my purse, but there was no bottle to be his secret saying exactly, but I didn't because I was too scared by the weird wall of just black.

[SPEAKER_00]: It was very eerie.

[SPEAKER_00]: And then I found out it was because of a plumbing issue. [SPEAKER_00]: I was like scared at first and then it was a plumbing issue. [SPEAKER_00]: Apparently, um, shit in piss were backing up into the cook free style machines and nobody knew the difference for weeks because it looked like the coaxyro. [SPEAKER_00]: That's not true. [SPEAKER_00]: Is it? [SPEAKER_00]: And then they figured it out. [SPEAKER_00]: But people were like, yam, yam, yam. [SPEAKER_00]: This cooked taste so good.

[SPEAKER_00]: But that makes you fix it. [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_02]: Well, that's yucky. [SPEAKER_00]: When I went in, you know, and sometimes there's those like synna, synna scores and I'm a score people that give you the little things you have actually that doesn't happen here in Chicago, but yes, I'm aware that the concept there was that and I love when that happens. [SPEAKER_00]: Because your voice gets heard I love my voice to be heard.

[SPEAKER_00]: it makes me feel so important when they're like, what brought you into this movie and I get to choose my little tag? [SPEAKER_00]: It makes me feel so powerful. [SPEAKER_02]: What is that process for people who maybe have never experienced it like myself? [SPEAKER_00]: There are two people outside the theater and they're like, you hear her for Undertale? [SPEAKER_00]: And you go, yeah. [SPEAKER_00]: And then they hand you a little green piece of paper. [SPEAKER_00]: And then they say, okay, after the movie, please fill this out and then give it back to us.

[SPEAKER_00]: And then after the movie, there's like, it asks like, gender, age range. [SPEAKER_00]: What made you see this movie today? [SPEAKER_00]: And what score would you give it like A to A to F? [SPEAKER_00]: and then it's little tabs and you just fold back the tab of your answer and then they're waiting outside with bags and you walk out and you give them your little thing and they go thank you and I don't know what they're doing the whole time but gossiping with each other about their co-workers probably probably a good way to spend time honestly and yeah it doesn't sound like a bad part-time gig [SPEAKER_00]: No, I, every time this happens, I'm like, I should look into this, actually, for some extra cash.

[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, you're going to be at the movies anyway. [SPEAKER_00]: Exactly. [SPEAKER_00]: Might as well just like get out of the movie, clock in, make 50 bucks or what?

[SPEAKER_02]: Okay, that's funny. [SPEAKER_02]: That's a good setting. [SPEAKER_02]: In terms of the void that was the concession stand, you said it was a plumbing issue. [SPEAKER_02]: Turns out it was a plumbing issue, where you worried it was ghosts or demons? [SPEAKER_00]: Maybe the group theater and the demons. [SPEAKER_00]: I mean, I don't know. [SPEAKER_00]: I'm pretty quick to jump to demons as the answer to most questions. [SPEAKER_00]: I have some things. [SPEAKER_00]: I mean, one time, I had like a, you know, a hand soap.

[SPEAKER_00]: And it started like coming out weird. [SPEAKER_00]: And I immediately jumped to demons. [SPEAKER_00]: Okay, okay, cool. [SPEAKER_00]: And then I ran it by your subgirl just so I know it was like, coming out like just water all of the sudden that is weird. [SPEAKER_00]: And then I ran it by some people and they were like, oh, maybe it's just like maybe there was like a weird separation. [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, that is what I thought when you said that. [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_00]: Okay, but I was like the only explanation goes yeah, so we kind of have an EV in the other guy dynamic here where I'm the ghost skeptic I wow, I also really didn't answer what did I think about this movie at all.

[SPEAKER_00]: I got really caught up on the concession stand [SPEAKER_00]: I liked it. [SPEAKER_00]: I, I, all I want is like to be like, have, have a couple moments at least where I'm like legitimately scared and I feel like I got that. [SPEAKER_00]: I was very impressed when I found out that it was $500,000. [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, that's really cool. [SPEAKER_00]: It didn't feel like it. [SPEAKER_00]: Um, so I just like it. [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_02]: So my answer is like sort of, and I was thinking a lot about it this morning.

[SPEAKER_02]: I think this will remain a core tension of this podcast because ultimately, I just don't like horror movies that much. [SPEAKER_02]: And I think part of the problem is, I'm having right now, is that I don't quite know how to evaluate my feelings critically because I just don't really like this genre. [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I don't really like, I don't like, what were you gonna say? [SPEAKER_00]: Oh, that you don't really connect with horror and I don't really connect with action. [SPEAKER_02]: totally.

[SPEAKER_02]: And that's I would like that is exactly it because I was like, oh, you know, something like in the trailer as they showed a ready or not trailer, right? [SPEAKER_02]: I see that as more of an action looking thing than a horror. [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_02]: And I'm like, oh, that you're like, I can enjoy some of this. [SPEAKER_02]: I remember I think the last horror I saw and enjoyed was maybe weapons. [SPEAKER_02]: Like, I liked but even in weapons, it was like,

[SPEAKER_02]: There's like a level of disconnection for me with horror, I think, and I was having it with this too where I was like this movie. [SPEAKER_02]: I like, I can tell that it's a little budget in that I'm like, I was noticing like, oh, they only used one setting and there's one actor. [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, basically, and I was thinking, oh, how smart, how interesting. [SPEAKER_02]: I loved the way this movie like played with the form in terms of like, [SPEAKER_02]: three-dimensional audio stuff.

[SPEAKER_02]: Like, it was very audio nerd friendly. [SPEAKER_02]: Did you see it in Dolby? [SPEAKER_00]: I didn't, they didn't have it in the hoppers was an art Dolby theater. [SPEAKER_00]: Okay, I also didn't see it in Dolby. [SPEAKER_00]: I wanted to because of the sound, but they were only doing it in Dolby every night at like 10 30 PM, and that just wasn't working for me. [SPEAKER_02]: It's not when I'm trying to watch a movie, truly. [SPEAKER_02]: That's not the hour that I'm most tuned in.

[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, it wasn't available until, but even, I, you know, I was just like a regular laser AMC laser room. [SPEAKER_02]: And the sound was incredible. [SPEAKER_02]: Like the sound experience, I thought was really cool. [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, but that, all of that being said, the things that happen in horror movies that are the mechanisms through which the story gets told, I think just kind of like, [SPEAKER_02]: always leave me really unsatisfied because I was like in this this movie as the example whole was like oh there's something really interesting here about like [SPEAKER_02]: you know, circle of life like she's pregnant, the mother's dying, it's all in the same house, you're trapped caregiving, like there's really interesting themes here, and then really interesting themes around like mother daughter relationship and how you see yourself in how you show up for your mother and their later life.

[SPEAKER_02]: Like all that stuff is really interesting. [SPEAKER_02]: The movie was not interested in that and it just ends. [SPEAKER_02]: Yes, and I so I like by the end I was like [SPEAKER_02]: Like some of the stuff was cool, but it almost, it's like, the visuals were cool and stuff was cool, but it ended up being just like a cheap thrill and not like the depth I was like, uh-huh, hungry for while watching, and that's user error, like I don't think that's the movie's fault, but then it puts me in this position where I'm like, I don't quite know how to analyze yeah, engage critically with this because [SPEAKER_00]: I just have the wrong attitude for this, so for you like being scared is not really an itch that you feel needs to be like scratched for you.

[SPEAKER_02]: No, not at all, and I didn't, you know, I thought like the scares were effective. [SPEAKER_02]: in this, so I did go like, ooh, yeah, but I've never really seeking out that feeling. [SPEAKER_02]: And anytime movie gets me to feel anything, I think it's cool. [SPEAKER_02]: But I don't

[SPEAKER_02]: I think the sacrifices that have to be made may be frequently for like story that, you know, story comes at the expense of like creating the tension in the situation that scares you. [SPEAKER_02]: So it's like I get, I wasn't seeking out that feeling, but I was seeking out a different feeling. [SPEAKER_02]: And so I got this one feeling and was just kind of like, okay, yeah. [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I mean, and some horror movies like do the depth plus the scares quite well, this one I agree like didn't it hinted at some depth, but then with horror movies a lot of the time because so much of the the scaringness comes from the character not knowing exactly how things work.

[SPEAKER_00]: You're, you're also not getting that. [SPEAKER_00]: And this movie actually was so exposition heavy. [SPEAKER_00]: Like the podcast co-host, his whole role was just like explaining things essentially. [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, and I do think that was like well deployed. [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, but even then it's like it didn't. [SPEAKER_00]: There's a lot that didn't necessarily add up [SPEAKER_00]: I think, I just love horror. [SPEAKER_00]: I just like, I'll see any horror movie. [SPEAKER_00]: I, it's just like, it's the move.

[SPEAKER_00]: It's the type of movie I honestly got like most excited to see. [SPEAKER_00]: Just because I'm like, I find them so fun. [SPEAKER_02]: And so the question you asked me is that the case for you, like that is a feeling you are like chasing kind of. [SPEAKER_00]: in real life weirdly or not weirdly. [SPEAKER_00]: I mean, who wants to but like who wants to actually scare further life. [SPEAKER_00]: But like it's a I feel like a thing that it's some point happened to me within the the past because I've always liked horror movies, but I used to be like,

[SPEAKER_00]: They used to scare me so much. [SPEAKER_00]: In a way that I liked and found fun and did seek out, but like, they really scared me. [SPEAKER_00]: Like, roll a coaster level, where sometimes I would be like, oh my god, this is about to be too. [SPEAKER_00]: I can't even handle this, like, ah, but like, [SPEAKER_00]: this, this is a story that involves you. [SPEAKER_02]: I think I already know which one it's going to be. [SPEAKER_00]: The movie that as as an adult scared me for some reason more than any movie has ever scared me like it ruined my life for a little bit is a movie that most people think of as a joke.

[SPEAKER_00]: It is the visit. [SPEAKER_00]: emni chomelons the visit the scary grandparents movie just I don't know what like it is people are like it's a joke there's a little like wrapping white kid in it like it's not a movie that people take seriously but for some reason something about it scared me so much that it like ruined my life where we saw it together at the vista [SPEAKER_00]: in LA. [SPEAKER_00]: And afterwards, my boyfriend was out of town. [SPEAKER_00]: All three of my roommates were out of town.

[SPEAKER_00]: I didn't feel like I could go to an empty apartment. [SPEAKER_00]: I was so freaked out. [SPEAKER_00]: I drove around for like two hours. [SPEAKER_00]: then eventually decided my boyfriend's empty apartment was a better option than my own empty apartment because I lived in a apartment that had a bunch of rooms and he lived in a much smaller one bedroom. [SPEAKER_00]: So I was like, okay, let's rooms for something scary to be happening and I went there. [SPEAKER_00]: I took a bunch of Benadryl and kept all the lights on.

[SPEAKER_00]: Like, I didn't know what to do with myself. [SPEAKER_00]: I was so scared. [SPEAKER_00]: And then at some point, that I can't place, there was a shift where now it's really hard for me to feel, I guess I just watched too many and got de-sensitized. [SPEAKER_00]: We're now it's hard for me to be like, actually scared. [SPEAKER_00]: So I like, especially like, I'm hungry for it. [SPEAKER_00]: I'm like, scare me. [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, that's really interesting. [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, that's so funny.

[SPEAKER_00]: This movie did like [SPEAKER_00]: have moments of that and I think that's why I do think it was good because it's like this movie was a specific type of of scare where I could very much imagine being in that position and that is the exact type of thing I'm scared of happening like in real life. [SPEAKER_00]: Being in your house alone or with someone who, you know, in this case, she's basically alone because the only other person is essentially like, you know, upstairs. [SPEAKER_00]: But it's like, yeah, to just be in your house and like the water turns on.

[SPEAKER_00]: something like that is or a light turns on like things that are that small those are the kinds of things I'm scared of in real life is just like one little thing being like off in a way that like you can't explain okay yeah I get that I mean it is creep you know I live in a house I'm in my basement right now when I'm home alone and all the lights are off in the basement it's certainly [SPEAKER_02]: unsettling. [SPEAKER_02]: There's like, yeah, so I can relate to those feelings. [SPEAKER_02]: Also, just your visit story is very funny because I remember the experience of that happening.

[SPEAKER_02]: I remember texting with you and being like, do you want to stay at my house? [SPEAKER_02]: And you didn't, I think. [SPEAKER_02]: But you wouldn't, you were just sort of panicked for a few minutes. [SPEAKER_02]: But my memory replaced the visit, because as you were describing the movie, I was like I can't even remember seeing that movie. [SPEAKER_02]: My memory replaced the visit with Crimson Peak.

[SPEAKER_02]: Which we did also see together at Bista, so I can see why my brain did that. [SPEAKER_00]: And I love Crimson Peak. [SPEAKER_00]: That was such a discourse because people were like, it wasn't even scary and it's like it's not really supposed to be scary. [SPEAKER_00]: It's like just like a very gothic, you know. [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, it's movies, it's not like scary, but no, it was, it was the visit. [SPEAKER_02]: The visit. [SPEAKER_02]: That's so funny. [SPEAKER_02]: That's really, really funny.

[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I think what you're saying is interesting. [SPEAKER_02]: I mean, I was thinking to myself during the movie, like this is a really interesting setting for a horror movie, the setting of caring for being a caretaker, essentially for someone who is like in their last days of like Alzheimer's or something, you know? [SPEAKER_02]: where they can't talk to you anymore. [SPEAKER_02]: And yeah, I just think it gives, you know, I've never been in that position, knock on wood, knock on my wall.

[SPEAKER_00]: There's a lot of wood for you to knock on my back. [SPEAKER_02]: But I've never been in that position, but I have had friends who have been in that position and I've sort of, from a distance scene, [SPEAKER_02]: even just a taste of like how all consuming and brutal that experiences and I have to imagine if you're just like your small moments living day to day in that house during those days, even though you know, maybe just like, [SPEAKER_02]: a week or two weeks or something, that has to fuck with your head in such a crazy way.

[SPEAKER_02]: And so I definitely was like, this is like a setting that is really interesting. [SPEAKER_02]: And I also just from a filmmaking standpoint, I think it's cool whenever anybody makes something really cheap that is really interesting and doesn't have a cheap. [SPEAKER_00]: two actors, but one isn't really doing much. [SPEAKER_00]: One is sleeping mostly. [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, you almost forget because it makes so much sense in the setting where I liked that they didn't even show the nurse that you hear.

[SPEAKER_00]: Because I feel like that was really communicating like the isolation and how much like [SPEAKER_00]: bubble and like when the I guess boyfriend is like no, like come out to this party and how it must feel like she's in like an alternate universe just because she's in this bubble where her whole life revolves around taking care of her mom but also like there's just like depth, her whole life is just like this imminent death and every time she walks into that room, [SPEAKER_00]: could be the moment where she walks in on like a dead body.

[SPEAKER_00]: Right. [SPEAKER_02]: And that must the death rattle. [SPEAKER_02]: That's like mentioned. [SPEAKER_00]: So that must be like just the craziest feeling. [SPEAKER_00]: And I felt like there was

[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I felt like it was really effective at just showing how it's like she's in this weird alternate universe and then that alternate universe. [SPEAKER_00]: it almost makes sort of sense that like these crazy things would start happening because you're already in this world that's so removed from like the world you know and that everybody else is living in that it it feels primed for like things that should be against the laws of physics as we know them to happen. [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, yeah, and also just like [SPEAKER_02]: You know, I think one of the core horrors being depicted is isolation and [SPEAKER_02]: You know, I have this experience a lot in life where I observe a friend maybe behaving in a way that I think is crazy and it's frequently like I start to think about their lifestyle, yeah, how isolated they are and I think it's like sort of a common condition of like our entire generation and [SPEAKER_02]: the generations before and after us a little bit.

[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, but um and so I don't know. [SPEAKER_02]: I like that's another thing. [SPEAKER_02]: It's like I think that's like I do feel like the film.

[SPEAKER_02]: Bet the promise of exploring isolation in this context like that the isolation was what making her makes her feel like her mind playing tricks on her or is it a demon or is it like she has no one to talk to. [SPEAKER_02]: No one to [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, whoever that guy is. [SPEAKER_02]: I'll deal with her boyfriend's calling her like, come on babe, come to a party. [SPEAKER_02]: I'm doing something nice for you. [SPEAKER_02]: It's like she has to leave for seven days to take care of a dying person.

[SPEAKER_02]: You're bored. [SPEAKER_02]: Um, but just, yeah, I mean, I think that is like, that was an interesting part of this. [SPEAKER_02]: And I, you know, didn't do my normal level of psychotic research on the filmmaker, except that I heard one conversation he had where he was talking about how this was essentially his experience of caring for both of his parents who were dying at the same time during COVID. [SPEAKER_02]: And so that is like pure isolation and you can really feel it in this movie that it's yeah, that you the isolation is like what drives us all the craziest.

[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, because it's like I know she does leave the house at that one point, but that's almost shocking because you almost start feeling like she can't leave this house. [SPEAKER_00]: And is like trapped within the house. [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, yeah, you really don't want her to leave the house. [SPEAKER_00]: And then you can feel that like she feels that too, where it's like I cannot leave this house. [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, yeah, I, I thought that was really good. [SPEAKER_02]: I wish for her just a human sake.

[SPEAKER_02]: I wish her friend was there for her a little more. [SPEAKER_02]: Yes. [SPEAKER_02]: But, you know, he has a girlfriend and a cat and a job as far as we know. [SPEAKER_02]: But those are the three details about him. [SPEAKER_00]: I feel like the reason they did the London thing was partly to excuse why they can't talk more. [SPEAKER_00]: I mean, also, they wanted her to be recording it three. [SPEAKER_00]: Like the three I am saying, I clocked immediately just as like, [SPEAKER_00]: Yes, it's like that's when the the vagal between humans and evil and wherever is supposed to be like the finished, so it's like, okay, they needed a reason to have it be like 3 a.m. that she's recording.

[SPEAKER_00]: I saw people online who saw people were saying that they got frustrated with how many shots were just like of dark sort of backgrounds and rooms with like [SPEAKER_00]: fear. [SPEAKER_00]: And that's why I could put myself in it so easily is like, you know, almost nothing scares me as much as just like sort of like a dark room and that feeling over you kind of feel like you convince yourself that there is something there or some presence like I [SPEAKER_00]: I don't know if I believe in ghosts, but never get into it.

[SPEAKER_00]: I did live in one house. [SPEAKER_00]: that I do legitimately think was haunted. [SPEAKER_00]: To this day, I think it was haunted. [SPEAKER_00]: It was that echo park house. [SPEAKER_00]: And that whole year of living there was a shit show in many ways that were not haunted, rodents, terrible roommates, et cetera. [SPEAKER_00]: But like, when I lived there, [SPEAKER_00]: There was this like heaviness in the air. [SPEAKER_00]: And I just, I always felt very unsettled. [SPEAKER_00]: Okay.

[SPEAKER_00]: Like it always felt like there was like something lurking. [SPEAKER_00]: And like, I felt it so strongly because anytime I was anywhere else, I was like, oh, I don't feel anything. [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, the area made just more aware of the feeling. [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, interesting. [SPEAKER_00]: I just, the air didn't feel like clear. [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_00]: Okay. [SPEAKER_00]: I mean, I'm open to it. [SPEAKER_00]: There was like this really, I don't know. [SPEAKER_00]: There was always just this like sinister vibe that felt like it was like lurking and like every shadow.

[SPEAKER_00]: And [SPEAKER_00]: that this kind of brought me back to that feeling. [SPEAKER_00]: And I'm like, yeah, that is so scary. [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, and when you're living in it, I think it's even scarier. [SPEAKER_02]: It's just like, it's your every day and you're just like, every day feels heavy. [SPEAKER_02]: No, I don't know if I've necessarily had this experience that you're describing. [SPEAKER_02]: I have been unsettled by places before, [SPEAKER_02]: I'm trying to think, like, I don't think I've ever lived anywhere I felt unsettled by.

[SPEAKER_02]: I did, I remember staying in a hotel one time that kind of freaked me out. [SPEAKER_02]: and I couldn't sleep. [SPEAKER_02]: I'll actually have two, I have two experiences, I can think of both. [SPEAKER_02]: One was very horror movie coded and it but not ghost wise. [SPEAKER_00]: Okay. [SPEAKER_02]: One time I went to Big Bear with my mom. [SPEAKER_02]: We used to do that a lot when I was growing up. [SPEAKER_02]: We'd like rent a little cabin. [SPEAKER_02]: That's like a one bedroom, like little place and goof around.

[SPEAKER_02]: But it used to always be like me and my mom and then multiple people like maybe my grandma or a boyfriend or friends or whatever. [SPEAKER_02]: So it was like usually a larger group. [SPEAKER_02]: But I can only remember one time where it was just me and my mom. [SPEAKER_02]: It was a little cabin and it was like kind of in the woods and once it got dark outside, [SPEAKER_02]: My mom was so freaked out that it like, blood into me. [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I think I was, I don't know how old I was.

[SPEAKER_02]: I was young, but maybe teenage. [SPEAKER_02]: Okay, I can remember there was like a little window in the bathroom. [SPEAKER_02]: That was kind of one of those like, like textured glass windows. [SPEAKER_02]: and my mom was like, I can't go in there because what if someone puts their face up against that window? [SPEAKER_02]: And you know what? [SPEAKER_02]: Sure. [SPEAKER_00]: That is, I can, I'm on her side. [SPEAKER_00]: That is a specific thing. [SPEAKER_00]: I've always been very scared of.

[SPEAKER_00]: I hate any sort of uncovered window at night. [SPEAKER_00]: I'm always scared of a face showing up at windows.

[SPEAKER_02]: And because she said that and it just sort of like, I think we began a feedback loop right of like, [SPEAKER_02]: It started both of our imaginations of like what could be creepy about this place and then we really left at midnight went to Denny's and stayed up all night. [SPEAKER_02]: Oh, no, because it was the only place that was open. [SPEAKER_02]: So we just sat in a diner. [SPEAKER_02]: We were like, yeah, we just can't go back till today light. [SPEAKER_02]: And then when it was daylight, we like went back to sleep for a little while and then drove home.

[SPEAKER_02]: And then the only other, I like that this became ghost story hour, um, the only answer memory I have where I was really unsettled by a place was we took my grandmother to visit her sister in France, and her sister had been put in, um, like an elderly home, [SPEAKER_02]: um, and assisted living like facility type home, but in a place that we had no other family, I'm not sure why this place was chosen. [SPEAKER_02]: Like our family was mostly in either Paris or Marseille in France, so it's like the south of France kind of or the middle of France.

[SPEAKER_02]: This home was in the [SPEAKER_02]: I don't know why it was there. [SPEAKER_02]: I think there was like some, I mean, I want to speculate about my family, but there was some sort of like struggle with the siblings of dog the kids of this woman. [SPEAKER_02]: So like I think she was placed far away on purpose, but.

[SPEAKER_02]: So we drove four hours across the country to take my grandmother to see her sister. [SPEAKER_02]: your exiled the great aunt and it was an a town called Poe. [SPEAKER_02]: It's like P. A. P. E. U. I think it was how it was spelled. [SPEAKER_02]: It was a town with a hotel. [SPEAKER_02]: a little bridge with like water. [SPEAKER_02]: It was beautiful. [SPEAKER_02]: Like in, you know, a mountain range in Europe, it's like stunning and ancient on the way there you pass one of the, I don't know if it's one of the last but it's one of the like more well known like ancient walled cities.

[SPEAKER_02]: It was like, the whole thing was like already kind of like surreal and weird. [SPEAKER_02]: We get to this town and the only hotel is like, has not left the 1940s. [SPEAKER_02]: It's like rooms, but there's a shared bathroom in the hallway. [SPEAKER_02]: Everything is like creaky. [SPEAKER_02]: The beds are old and everything you could hear the like caretaker was just like 80 year old woman. [SPEAKER_02]: It was just kind of like creaking around the house. [SPEAKER_02]: It was so creepy.

[SPEAKER_02]: I don't have any one thing I can point to about it, but we didn't sleep. [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_00]: No, that's just like it's just too scary. [SPEAKER_00]: It is funny when you're in a situation where you're like, this could not be more classic horror movie set up. [SPEAKER_00]: It would almost be insane if this all turns out normal. [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_03]: Exactly. [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_02]: And so I can relate to those feelings of being unsettled.

[SPEAKER_02]: I don't really [SPEAKER_02]: have an opinion on ghosts, I think, or demons or any other stuff that was presented in this movie. [SPEAKER_02]: Like I don't necessarily

[SPEAKER_02]: I wanted, like, give people permission to have whatever feeling they have. [SPEAKER_02]: Like, I mean, my mom really believes in, like, ghosts in a positive way, like, that she's being touched by ancestors and they're, having her on the shoulder in moments where she needs it. [SPEAKER_02]: Like, so I want to, like, be permissive about stuff like that. [SPEAKER_02]: But for me personally, I never feel it anything that freaks me out. [SPEAKER_02]: I'm scared of, like, [SPEAKER_02]: people more than I am.

[SPEAKER_02]: The, you know, unknown. [SPEAKER_00]: I think I don't necessarily believe in like conscious ghosts, where it has like the conscious. [SPEAKER_00]: I think I do believe in like some sort of like energy imprint. [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, like it's on like a space and that's the version of Ghost I believe and like the the place I lived that I think was on part of the reason I also like felt it so strongly I think was because [SPEAKER_00]: It wasn't like a aesthetically creepy house. [SPEAKER_00]: It was like a new build, not like we were the first.

[SPEAKER_00]: But it was like, you know, just one of those like millennial gray, you know, black wooden floor. [SPEAKER_00]: Like, it wasn't like, oh, I'm being influenced by like, it's an old Victorian. [SPEAKER_00]: It feels great. [SPEAKER_00]: It looks creepy. [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I get what you're saying. [SPEAKER_02]: And so that's why I just was still something. [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, in the end there. [SPEAKER_00]: That's why it was like, Why does this place feel so scary, but I Yeah, I liked looking in in the dark to see if anything showed up because also I feel like there were scenes where nothing Did show up, but just because of the way it was shot there were sort of like [SPEAKER_00]: I don't know echoes of just like.

[SPEAKER_00]: a flash or a slight imprint of what had been on the screen a second before where you were like, is that a ghost or is that nothing? [SPEAKER_00]: Which kind of mirrors how real life can be when you're looking in the dark? [SPEAKER_00]: Were you just like, is there no? [SPEAKER_00]: Okay, there's not, but I swore I saw like some flash of something. [SPEAKER_02]: Totally like there were some moments where half the screen would be [SPEAKER_02]: where I, you did feel like you could see a figure maybe.

[SPEAKER_00]: Right, but like you, you couldn't be sure. [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_00]: It was you or actually in, in the movie and [SPEAKER_00]: I liked that never got old for me. [SPEAKER_00]: I liked that the whole time. [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, and I think that's also like, that's to me seems like a hallmark of like well executed or filmmaking. [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, it's impressive that it had that feeling to it. [SPEAKER_00]: I think it maintained tension the whole time. [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, big time.

[SPEAKER_00]: Which I found impressive, and then I, one of my problems with horror movies is I am always, I don't even know what I want the alternative to be, but I am always a little disappointed when they answer just turns out to be the devil or a demon, like long legs I really liked [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, so then when we were like, it's literally this demon lady. [SPEAKER_00]: I was kind of like, oh, I wish I was laying a little more. [SPEAKER_00]: I don't know. [SPEAKER_00]: I guess I just don't find it that interesting when it's essentially like, oh, the evil.

[SPEAKER_00]: It's just evil. [SPEAKER_00]: It's this evil guy. [SPEAKER_02]: We couldn't have done anything about it if we wanted to. [SPEAKER_02]: It's just ever present. [SPEAKER_00]: It's just this this one angry demon. [SPEAKER_00]: Here she is. [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I mean, I felt that I didn't see long legs because I really don't see horror unless you are making me.

[SPEAKER_02]: Uh, but weapons, it was the same kind of thing where I was like, oh, it's just like a witch. [SPEAKER_02]: It's just like a bad witch lady and her characterization was really fun. [SPEAKER_02]: So it was like, okay, but it is interesting that it's like, it would you have felt more satisfied if it was a person, um,

[SPEAKER_00]: No, yeah, I think I also I wanted there to be maybe a little more of a twist and maybe the fact that like I anticipated certain twists means that those twists shouldn't have happened because maybe that means they would have been sheep if I had guessed them like I at one point I did think that maybe like the co-host [SPEAKER_00]: She would find out she'd never actually been talking to him or something. [SPEAKER_02]: Oh, sure. [SPEAKER_00]: And the whole time it was Or at some point it had become the demon feeding her this audio in order to Unleash itself for something.

[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I think I just wanted like one more little twist or something other than it's like oh gosh I found out it's this demon and then it just like is the demon and [SPEAKER_00]: It's like, okay, you were right. [SPEAKER_00]: I guess maybe that was I because I'm not mad at how abrupt the ending was, but like I maybe would have like just like a little more of like a direct answer, but what did you think happen in the end? [SPEAKER_00]: Because I, I took it as, [SPEAKER_00]: The whole time we were like, okay, she's going to be possessed because we find out she's pregnant.

[SPEAKER_00]: She's going to do something. [SPEAKER_00]: But then I was like, okay, the mom is possessed. [SPEAKER_00]: And there was so much about like, you're in that voicemail. [SPEAKER_00]: We kept hearing it was like, remember, you're always my baby girl. [SPEAKER_00]: And so it was like, okay, she's she's killing not a literal child. [SPEAKER_00]: and also a, you know, she's pregnant. [SPEAKER_00]: So that's another level. [SPEAKER_00]: But I thought it was sort of like, we think one person is going to be like the possessed mom, but it's actually a mom of an adult daughter.

[SPEAKER_00]: Interesting. [SPEAKER_00]: So I thought she killed the mom killed her. [SPEAKER_02]: You know, you asking me this question makes me realize I didn't think at all about what I thought happened. [SPEAKER_02]: I just was like, okay, scary. [SPEAKER_02]: Bye.

[SPEAKER_02]: Okay, bad in that house. [SPEAKER_02]: See you.

[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I think that was just funny that I'm like begging for a depth and I didn't bother to. [SPEAKER_02]: think deeply for even a second. [SPEAKER_02]: So I think that you are probably on to something that, like, the, the mom was who, I mean, obviously the mom was who was possessed the whole movie. [SPEAKER_02]: Um, I, I took there to be like the heavy Catholic guilt thing of like the mom was only possessed because she didn't pray with her like she asked like she's saying I killed my mom as this confession.

[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, and that the killing the mom was that she didn't pray and then the mom stopped eating or whatever. [SPEAKER_02]: I thought that she didn't pray with her mom and that was why the the demon was able to get in the

[SPEAKER_02]: I've spent no time thinking about where that voice messages were coming from, like, why did they land in their inbox?

[SPEAKER_00]: I guess, or a few men just knows how to use computers. [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, but only kind of, because the text in that email was weird. [SPEAKER_00]: So, the demon is basically like me. [SPEAKER_00]: It kind of knows how to use computers. [SPEAKER_02]: Yes, I've been teaching you a lot about Google Drive for this podcast process. [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I think that, but I do think the mom was killing both her baby girl and the baby girls baby as well. [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_02]: I will say like that end sequence that end five minutes where it's like just slowly the noises are kind of piling on and it's, I mean, the sound of the trash bag hitting a thing with the [SPEAKER_02]: Goobie and it I mean this movie is not evading the Hollywood kills babies satanic cult killing babies accusations I was a little bit distracted in my own head at one point because I wasn't sure if the movie was [SPEAKER_00]: That's what I was looking up.

[SPEAKER_00]: I was just curious. [SPEAKER_00]: I was looking at people's reactions on Reddit about this movie. [SPEAKER_00]: And someone said that they thought it had an anti-abortion message, and I hadn't considered that at all. [SPEAKER_00]: I didn't make maybe because it seemed like she was like going to get an abortion. [SPEAKER_00]: And that I thought the movie seemed pretty chill about it. [SPEAKER_00]: But, but I don't know, like I just didn't pick up on that. [SPEAKER_02]: I mean, yeah, I don't know that this read is correct.

[SPEAKER_02]: I really don't think it was the intent. [SPEAKER_02]: But there is a read available of like, [SPEAKER_02]: Okay, so the character finds out she's pregnant. [SPEAKER_02]: Six weeks pregnant. [SPEAKER_02]: All you hear her say is like Later in the movie she calls her doctor and says, can you please refer me to the women's clinic? [SPEAKER_02]: Mm-hmm. [SPEAKER_02]: And then she gets possessed and dies and Is punished for that choice is a read that you could take if you wanted that is true That is true.

[SPEAKER_02]: That is true. [SPEAKER_02]: That also the movie [SPEAKER_02]: Again, I strongly don't believe that this is the intent, but there is kind of a read on this movie of life starts at conception if she's considered a mother by the demon. [SPEAKER_00]: I guess that's the question, right, is like does the demon consider her a mother? [SPEAKER_00]: Because all the other stories [SPEAKER_00]: were about a mother killing, living, living exists. [SPEAKER_00]: Although I guess in that other, the couple that the recording is of, she was still pregnant when she died.

[SPEAKER_00]: So yeah, I don't know, I don't know. [SPEAKER_00]: And I don't, you know, there are so much catholicism in it. [SPEAKER_02]: So that would, you know, the filmmaker was raised Catholic. [SPEAKER_02]: So I know that that is like a lot of, but, you know, people who are raised Catholic, I was technically raised Catholic, but I don't know much about anything. [SPEAKER_02]: So I couldn't have been raised that Catholic. [SPEAKER_02]: I know that people who are raised very Catholic, just especially if they go into the arts, there's like a little bit of a enamored with the folklore, like visual element of the whole deal of Catholicism, and so that was kind of like, I was just thinking, oh, this person [SPEAKER_00]: Oh, the shit's kind of creepy, huh?

[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, and like the daughter is like classic person, raised super Catholic, doesn't believe in it, but in a moment of like emotional distress, that Catholic guilt like comes back hard. [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, with the like, I killed my mommy, like, because I didn't pray. [SPEAKER_02]: Yes, yes, and love. [SPEAKER_02]: Even I, you know what's funny is, I think the only, [SPEAKER_02]: I don't know if this is a Catholic behavior or just specific Lee, something my mom would do, but she would do the cross on her chest anytime she heard an ambulance.

[SPEAKER_02]: Okay, and I will sometimes, I'm not even thinking about it, but I will catch myself doing that when I hear an ambulance and I'm like, [SPEAKER_02]: I, this is superstition at this point. [SPEAKER_02]: This is not, I'm like not wishing anything specific. [SPEAKER_00]: I'm just kind of like, uh-oh. [SPEAKER_00]: I feel like a lot of people who are raised Catholic and don't even think of themselves as, like, practicing anymore. [SPEAKER_00]: I feel like there's a lot of just in case behavior.

[SPEAKER_00]: We're like, most in memory. [SPEAKER_00]: Right. [SPEAKER_00]: And it's like, okay, well, just in case this is real. [SPEAKER_00]: I should probably say some hey, oh, man.

[SPEAKER_00]: I saw some reads to that were like, the mom was keeping the demon at bay and then when she dies that's when the demon comes out full force and can possess her fully that's interesting and then I also saw one read that I don't necessarily think this is [SPEAKER_00]: What, I mean, nothing, they didn't tell us what happened. [SPEAKER_00]: Anything could have happened. [SPEAKER_00]: Right. [SPEAKER_02]: I think this is a cool element of the movie. [SPEAKER_00]: Yes. [SPEAKER_02]: We'll say, like, this is the part I am like, it's like, oh, what did it name it?

[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_00]: Where in this context, the mom was the baby. [SPEAKER_00]: And Evie was the mom because it's like, she's singing her, these nursery rhymes. [SPEAKER_00]: She's cleaning her, trying to feed her, [SPEAKER_00]: So in this context, like she's the mom, mom is the baby, and she kills the baby, she kills the mom, possessed maybe. [SPEAKER_00]: And I don't, I just thought that was like an interesting theory that I saw on Reddit. [SPEAKER_02]: I don't know that I think that theory is like literally the case, but I do think that the movie is aware that those are the vibes it's playing with, that in this part of life, where your parent is at like end of life care that the rules get very tangibly reversed.

[SPEAKER_02]: And I do think that's like, [SPEAKER_00]: Again, like a good place for a horror movie to dabble because it is a mind-fuck and just so did you think that like what did you think of the shots where it keeps like tilting further and further? [SPEAKER_02]: Um, I don't know that I had a critical analysis of them, but I just thought it looked cool. [SPEAKER_02]: I mean, I thought, yeah, really, honestly, I have no negative feedback about the filmmaking, because I really did think this, like, it really had a style.

[SPEAKER_02]: It really had like a clear vision of like what it wanted to, like, unsuttle me with and it worked. [SPEAKER_02]: And so I thought those shots were cool. [SPEAKER_02]: I thought, I, I, [SPEAKER_02]: those shots and the darkness like all of it gave me this feeling of like this movie doesn't want me to feel safe ever. [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah because when it was right from the title card where with undertone when it fades out everything but the you in the end which are like flipped each other yeah I was I feel like I was kind of like primed for like okay like [SPEAKER_00]: Is there going to be some sort of like mirror image vibe or something?

[SPEAKER_00]: And so then like that that just a UN title card thing made me think of the it shifting more and more the angle made me think that like it was well first I was like is it like a clock but then I was like no and then I was just like okay is it essentially like [SPEAKER_00]: the further we get until it's like an even split and she's like on the reverse side is like normal reality and then when she's kind of losing her grip and then that's when like everything changes and we're in just like this other reality we're like there's a demon yeah yeah i mean [SPEAKER_03]: I think so.

[SPEAKER_02]: I think that I'm realizing how little I it's just I'm so not practiced with horror that I wasn't really thinking that hard about any of it other than like, I want to know what these people are feeling. [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_00]: everybody's emotion. [SPEAKER_00]: I thought the main, the only actress. [SPEAKER_00]: I thought like she was quite good because the entire movie was on her and so much of her being on screen was her just like because she didn't really have anyone to talk to except in the podcast scenes.

[SPEAKER_00]: So so much of it was just like [SPEAKER_02]: Also, she just, yeah, she just had a really perfect performance of someone who is like exhausted, like doing doing something that is exhausting, doing something that like, I feel like the moments where she's like calling her mom mama. [SPEAKER_02]: It was heartbreaking. [SPEAKER_02]: It's like, yeah, so it's such a small communication, but it like, [SPEAKER_02]: I don't know. [SPEAKER_02]: It just really put me in a like time and place of this person's life.

[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, and I really liked. [SPEAKER_00]: I saw that the podcast host because it was Adam Demarco from White Lotus was the voice. [SPEAKER_00]: I don't know who that is. [SPEAKER_00]: Who was he? [SPEAKER_00]: Did you watch season two, right? [SPEAKER_00]: I've seen all of them. [SPEAKER_00]: Okay. [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_00]: He's the the skinny kid. [SPEAKER_00]: He's um, [SPEAKER_00]: Oh, they're really here. [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, okay. [SPEAKER_00]: Oh, so that was him. [SPEAKER_00]: But I saw somewhere that this movie originally, they re-recorded all of that after it was bought.

[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, interesting. [SPEAKER_00]: I guess, I mean, who maybe the quality wasn't good or something, or they probably just wanted like one actor with a recognizable name. [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, so that was a different person during like the festival circuit and stuff like originally and then they brought him into re-record that whole part.

[SPEAKER_02]: He did really well because he has like a very sheet of this too, like. [SPEAKER_02]: the getting on mic, back and forth, fell very lived in, felt very real. [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, and I really, yeah, I liked it. [SPEAKER_02]: It's funny how, I'm being very positive. [SPEAKER_02]: I think I gave this two stars on letter box, um, definitely not for me. [SPEAKER_00]: But I did a good job at what it was doing, I think. [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I mean, they did that marketing thing too that it's like, I, I just know to ignore this completely every time there's a movie and the whole marketing thing is like, it's the scariest movie ever like you just got ignore that.

[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, they just there's only so many ways they can promote and so I think some people got now and they're like, wasn't the scariest movie and it's like, well, yeah, it's like when coffee shop say they have the best cup of coffee. [SPEAKER_02]: I have seen podcasts, trades, talk about this movie, and be like, hey, like, audio nerds. [SPEAKER_02]: This one is for us, which I think is very funny. [SPEAKER_00]: The tagline, the scariest movie you'll ever hear, it's like, I mean, I guess true.

[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, I did one of the notes I wrote myself after the movie was like, I genuinely think this could be up for like a sound design Oscar. [SPEAKER_02]: Next year. [SPEAKER_00]: The sound is amazing. [SPEAKER_02]: Because it's amazing. [SPEAKER_02]: It is so intentional and really well executed. [SPEAKER_02]: And yeah, I just thought it was really cool. [SPEAKER_00]: And it's really good at parts and putting you in her shoes where she doesn't know what is the recording and then what's actually happening in the house.

[SPEAKER_00]: And they did the sound in a way where you're like realizing with her. [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_00]: Somehow. [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, just anything that plays with that like 3D, your sound experience in a room in a space. [SPEAKER_02]: I think is like really cool and kind of underutilized sometimes. [SPEAKER_00]: I think it films. [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_00]: I honestly, like it's only 90 minutes. [SPEAKER_00]: I might try to see it again in Dolby. [SPEAKER_00]: Because like, I want to know what.

[SPEAKER_00]: what it sounds like and like Dolby sound. [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I bet it's really cool. [SPEAKER_02]: The first movie I ever saw in Dolby was Black Clansman. [SPEAKER_02]: Okay, I don't know why, that's the first one. [SPEAKER_02]: Just I had never really considered the Dolby. [SPEAKER_02]: I don't think I was a big AMC person. [SPEAKER_02]: before. [SPEAKER_02]: When I was living in LA, wasn't the Grove Regal? [SPEAKER_00]: It was Pacific. [SPEAKER_00]: The Grove and the Americana were Pacific.

[SPEAKER_02]: So that's what it was. [SPEAKER_02]: I used to always go there and then it became AMC later. [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_00]: Like, so it was never bad. [SPEAKER_02]: I was never an AMC person until I moved to New Orleans. [SPEAKER_02]: And I went to go see Black Clansman in Dolby and I didn't know what Dolby was. [SPEAKER_02]: I was just like, [SPEAKER_02]: Oh, they have all these formats and it'll be fine and I am not kidding. [SPEAKER_02]: It like felt like It felt like an earthquake like it was happening inside my body.

[SPEAKER_02]: It was shaking me so much and I was like what a funny movie to be so deeply Love Dolby. [SPEAKER_00]: It's my favorite seats. [SPEAKER_00]: It's my favorite viewing experience. [SPEAKER_00]: I love Dolby. [SPEAKER_00]: There are several movies where I'm like [SPEAKER_00]: I think I liked this because I saw an adult. [SPEAKER_00]: I don't know if I would have liked the last two avatars if I hadn't seen them in Dolby 3D. [SPEAKER_02]: Oh, sure. [SPEAKER_02]: I did not. [SPEAKER_02]: I didn't.

[SPEAKER_02]: I don't like the avatars movies and so. [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I mean, I've been open to them. [SPEAKER_00]: I just, for some reason, I'm like, got to see him. [SPEAKER_00]: And then I remember the first Dolby 3D movie I saw was Olita Battle Angel, which could not be less my type of movie. [SPEAKER_00]: But the last 3D was so impressive that I was kind of like, okay, I'm having a good time. [SPEAKER_00]: I feel like I'm there in battle angel world.

[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I am. [SPEAKER_02]: last night bought my tickets for project Hail Mary next week. [SPEAKER_02]: And at a tough time deciding between I'm Axler Dolby because I do want the big sound experience, but I also want the big screen experience. [SPEAKER_02]: I went with a guy named. [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, put it makes it up. [SPEAKER_02]: I mean, maybe the Dolby, I don't know any of the stats on the Dolby screens. [SPEAKER_00]: But I don't think they're eye-maxized. [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_00]: Next to you, it will be interesting because that's much more your type of movie, where I typically have a real version to space movies for some reason.

[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I have been feeling this one's going to work for you. [SPEAKER_00]: I also loved it, my hand. [SPEAKER_00]: Little, little guys. [SPEAKER_00]: And I know it's a little guy movie. [SPEAKER_02]: So the little guy movie. [SPEAKER_00]: Love it a little guy. [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, do you have anything else you want to say about, about undertone? [SPEAKER_02]: I, by the way, also keep almost calling this movie possession. [SPEAKER_02]: Like, before I even saw it, for some reason, something about the poster and shape makes me want to call it a session under tone.

[SPEAKER_00]: And there is a new, called obsession coming out kind of soon, so maybe you've been seeing that poster and then maybe. [SPEAKER_00]: I don't know what it is. [SPEAKER_02]: I'm just having a brain misfire. [SPEAKER_00]: I mean, I, it didn't inspire me. [SPEAKER_00]: I think our podcast should be haunted. [SPEAKER_00]: I think, okay, that would get us a lot of listeners. [SPEAKER_00]: And that's why next week we're going to introduce our third host, Pizzouzou. [SPEAKER_00]: And what does Pizzouzou do again?

[SPEAKER_00]: Pizzouzou is the one from the X hersess, but he's also a real one. [SPEAKER_00]: And I think that he's just going to come in sometimes

[SPEAKER_00]: Okay. [SPEAKER_00]: Okay. [SPEAKER_00]: So sometimes you're just going to hear a little and that's Pizzuzu. [SPEAKER_00]: And I just think that's going to open us up to a new audience of Pizzuzu fans. [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, it's going to clear the path to a fucking P-body, I think. [SPEAKER_02]: I think so too. [SPEAKER_02]: Or a podcasting gum globe. [SPEAKER_02]: They do those now, right? [SPEAKER_02]: That'll be us. [SPEAKER_02]: I mean, if we get killed by a ghost for a podcast, I think they have to get us one.

[SPEAKER_00]: I think so too. [SPEAKER_00]: And then it'll be ghost us on stage with Pizzuzu accepting. [SPEAKER_00]: I know the crazy. [SPEAKER_00]: And he's I think he might have a lot of thoughts on Project Hail Mary.

[SPEAKER_02]: Okay, every dance. [SPEAKER_02]: See you guys next week. [SPEAKER_02]: Bye. [UNKNOWN]: Bye.

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