Supergirl & Jackass: Best and Last

[SPEAKER_01]: Hello and welcome to Medium Literature at the show where two longtime best friends try to sharpen up their media literacy skills by having a long conversation about a new movie in theaters each week. [SPEAKER_01]: My name is Monica Scott and my go host is Emily Fay. [SPEAKER_01]: Today we are talking about Supergirl. [SPEAKER_01]: And we also talk a little bit about Jackass, but since Emily actually hadn't seen Jackass, don't worry about the spoilers for that one. [SPEAKER_01]: Um, because I, I mean, I'm spoiling the fact I guess that Emily hadn't seen it, but that's okay.

[SPEAKER_00]: Um, I talk at Emily about Jackass. [SPEAKER_01]: uh we're gonna talk about super girl though and we are gonna spoil the ever living shit out of it we talk about every single detail that there is to talk about with that movie and um i'll let you guess what we thought of it um so that's all i have to say here right oh no if you're listening to the audio of this [SPEAKER_01]: Please, my friend, go to YouTube, type in, medium, literate, and open up our channel, and watch us. [SPEAKER_01]: Watch us have this conversation.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And hello to all of our new friends who found us still from disclosure takes on TikTok, which is crazy that that, [SPEAKER_01]: that that's still rackin up angry comments and also hello to our new friends who are Matt Johnson fans. [SPEAKER_01]: We love you. [SPEAKER_01]: We are happy to have you. [SPEAKER_01]: Okay, onto the show.

[SPEAKER_00]: Hi and welcome to POV of a baby actor, POV. [SPEAKER_00]: I'm a baby. [SPEAKER_01]: We did I say that on the show. [SPEAKER_01]: I don't remember. [SPEAKER_01]: No.

[SPEAKER_01]: Hello, welcome to medium letter. [SPEAKER_01]: I was telling Emily about an Instagram video that started with POV, you're a baby actor. [SPEAKER_01]: I didn't just set.

[SPEAKER_00]: And then and then follow up POV, you're a baby actor doing a

[SPEAKER_01]: So shout out to that baby, you know, you're a baby. [SPEAKER_00]: I believe it's the baby from Margo's got money troubles, correct? [SPEAKER_01]: Yes, it is the baby because I think the how I first came across these people was seeing like

[SPEAKER_01]: They really liked the POV format. [SPEAKER_01]: I feel like it was another POV. [SPEAKER_01]: That was like POV your mom. [SPEAKER_01]: Your TV mom comes to your real birthday party And it was like elf ending holding the baby at a park Also not to harp on this, you know, of course, but everyone uses POV incorrectly [SPEAKER_00]: on TikTok. [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, like it would be this is like this is not from the perspective of baby. [SPEAKER_00]: We're looking at the baby. [SPEAKER_00]: If it's POV, I'm a baby and I'm supposed to be the baby.

[SPEAKER_00]: I'm not seeing the baby. [SPEAKER_00]: I'm being told by L fanning. [SPEAKER_00]: I'm in the pool of Vegas with my mommy. [SPEAKER_01]: And wouldn't a video would go crazy that was like POV you're being held by L fanning.

[SPEAKER_00]: I would never, I would never wish that upon her. [SPEAKER_00]: She seems like a nice girl. [SPEAKER_01]: She seems like a such a nice lady, really fun. [SPEAKER_01]: Anyway, hey guys, hey, we're here and We're talking about Supergirl. [SPEAKER_00]: Today we sure are.

[SPEAKER_01]: And those of you who found us from Disclosure Day, I hope you're ready for us to be evil again. [SPEAKER_00]: We're not setting out to be like evil every week, but like sometimes a movie just doesn't give you a choice.

[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I also, with Disclosure Day and this, I actually set out really excited hoping that this would be good. [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, and then sometimes your hand is just forced by the quality of the movie. [SPEAKER_01]: Yes, yes, so here we go. [SPEAKER_01]: We're talking about Supergirl.

[SPEAKER_01]: Emily, did you see the Superman movie that came out last year? [SPEAKER_01]: I did. [SPEAKER_01]: I wasn't feeling about it. [SPEAKER_00]: I really liked it. [SPEAKER_00]: I wasn't initially even going to see it because I just like don't care about super hero stuff. [SPEAKER_00]: But then the way people were talking about it and stuff, I was like, OK, I'll see it. [SPEAKER_00]: And I really liked it. [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I thought it was pretty fun. [SPEAKER_01]: I think that James Gunn has like a very, you know, there's a lot of,

[SPEAKER_01]: There's a lot of hallmarks of a James gun property that I think a lot of people have grown a little allergic to. [SPEAKER_01]: But I do think he has a really distinct sort of creative style that at least is flare that is like recognizable or is kind of fun. [SPEAKER_01]: And I liked the Superman movie, which is why I was like, okay, hopefully like this one is that equally as cool. [SPEAKER_00]: Because it's like, why not? [SPEAKER_00]: If that one was surprisingly good, why wouldn't this one be surprisingly good?

[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I As soon as this movie ended I turned to the person I saw it when I said well, that was a horrible Did they agree with you? [SPEAKER_00]: No, oh No, so I'm not the person he was like and then I felt kind of bad, but he was like I thought it was pretty fun and I was like [SPEAKER_00]: Oh, oh, but that a lot of the things because he was like, why didn't you like it? [SPEAKER_00]: And I was like, um, the writing, the story, the way it looked, the character. [SPEAKER_01]: And this is the fact that the movie was generally kind of like dark brown and easy little.

[SPEAKER_00]: It's like we have everything about it, but I was like, what did you like about it? [SPEAKER_00]: And then he listed a bunch of things that I specifically did not like about. [SPEAKER_00]: Like interesting. [SPEAKER_00]: The Jason Mamoa character, I thought was like so bad. [SPEAKER_00]: And he was like, I thought that was really fun. [SPEAKER_00]: And I liked that character a lot. [SPEAKER_01]: And I was like, listen, I think this person sounds very sweet and opens the world. [SPEAKER_01]: And I like that.

[SPEAKER_01]: I would describe that Jason Mamoa character as

[SPEAKER_01]: as as the embodiment of what Elon Musk thinks masculinity is.

[SPEAKER_00]: Yes, every single time it was on screen, it felt like it was like a t-shirt that you would find in a gas station. [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, or it had the vibe of [SPEAKER_00]: the meatloaf scene in Rocky Horror Picture Show except like not fun like at least that scene's fun because there's like a really fun song But it was like yeah, what if what if meatloaf came into that scene and then it was like no fun at all So where are you at on Jason mama in general? [SPEAKER_00]: just like whatever okay I don't know I just like don't he's not in that much that I see like any right you know so I just like I don't have really strong feelings on him either way um I I lean towards not like loving his vibe like the I will say my husband [SPEAKER_01]: fucking hates him, like thinks that he seems really annoying and bad.

[SPEAKER_01]: And I liked him in game of thrones where I didn't know who he was and had no context for who he was at all and the character was interesting and mainly grunted. [SPEAKER_01]: He also like, he wasn't in that much of game of thrones, like no, he's like the first season. [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, it's like easy to forget that he's like kind of [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, but, you know, when important, yes, like a very important character to the story, so it's like, He haunts the narrative. [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, yeah, he's like, I do think of him when I think of Game of Thrones, but yeah, he was in like the first six episodes or something.

[SPEAKER_01]: But he, you know, he has this like, [SPEAKER_01]: I see him in a lot of commercials. [SPEAKER_01]: I see him, he's like, the supposed to be this like funny character and it's like, oh, isn't it so surprising? [SPEAKER_01]: He's like this big man, but he's kind of funny and he pranks everybody. [SPEAKER_01]: It's just not an energy I would enjoy being around. [SPEAKER_00]: Like he, yeah, because it's a thing where it's like, he is such, [SPEAKER_00]: a hot guy just like such an objectively like visually like hot guy but then every time he like does anything it's giving it's giving a little like yeah epic bacon guy yes I did I did think I mean first of all I just want to say I don't like hot people no offense with hot people this thing I'd like don't fight I don't [SPEAKER_01]: I truly don't participate in hot people culture.

[SPEAKER_01]: I don't like, like, I won't watch like love island and stuff like that because I don't like hot people. [SPEAKER_01]: I don't want to watch hot people. [SPEAKER_01]: So I just don't like them. [SPEAKER_01]: And I'm sorry, it's just, it's my form of racism. [SPEAKER_00]: And this is a really good trap too because anybody who would choose to get mad at you for this is calling themselves hot, which you're like not supposed to do. [SPEAKER_00]: So nobody can even like get mad at you because then it's just like, [SPEAKER_00]: Oh, you think you're really hot?

[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, are you saying? [SPEAKER_00]: Oh, okay. [SPEAKER_00]: So interesting. [SPEAKER_00]: How do you think you're so hot? [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, it's also like, I really view hot people culture as like something really specific. [SPEAKER_01]: Like, you know, it's just it's [SPEAKER_01]: I don't know. [SPEAKER_01]: I listen. [SPEAKER_01]: I don't want to go on the hot people tangent. [SPEAKER_01]: I don't like hot people that much. [SPEAKER_01]: And so Jason, I'm a little kind of does, it offers me nothing, right?

[SPEAKER_01]: Okay. [SPEAKER_00]: Okay. [SPEAKER_01]: But this, this character, Lobo, which I've learned is like beloved in the comics. [SPEAKER_01]: I guess. [SPEAKER_01]: I'm like, okay. [SPEAKER_01]: I hope you guys liked this version of him. [SPEAKER_01]: And because I think this is what you're going to get for the next 10 years, probably. [SPEAKER_01]: It just was so unbelievably corny. [SPEAKER_01]: It made me think, like, oh, this movie, this part of this movie, also his characters, like, fully in a completely different movie than everybody else.

[SPEAKER_00]: Yes. [SPEAKER_00]: But I don't believe he shot a single scene with, like, I thought that too. [SPEAKER_00]: Thousand mile radius of any of these other actors. [SPEAKER_01]: I feel that about him and Millie for a lot of the movie, Millie is in person with why am I blanking Rosie? [SPEAKER_01]: What was the Lucy? [SPEAKER_01]: I believe that she's with Ruthie, but like until it's an action sequence, it feels like they shot Millie alone on the volume. [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_01]: And in a lot of ways, I am a believer of Millia Alcock innocent in this.

[SPEAKER_00]: Like I don't think it's her fault to that I think she's a good actress. [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_00]: I just think that like every single thing about this movie was bad. [SPEAKER_00]: So how can she

[SPEAKER_00]: save a movie where every single aspect of it is really bad. [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, and like she has just as much charm as she can have with some of the lines she has to say. [SPEAKER_01]: It's almost like a Josh O'Connor in Disclosure Day. [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, I'm actually this invites comparison because it's like so close together. [SPEAKER_01]: These movies are not similar at all. [SPEAKER_01]: And in a lot of ways, I think Disclosure Day was a better movie, which is insane.

[SPEAKER_01]: But like it invites the same comparison because it's like there's there's just some like her lines That she has to deliver that suck are like the ones where it's kind of like funny and oh, she's kind of a bitch And it's just like tough tough stuff to make her save It was just like the way every single character was bad the way This movie was not fun at all to me [SPEAKER_00]: Like, there wasn't a single part of it that like, I found fun or endearing.

[SPEAKER_01]: I am an action-enjoyer, so I would say,

[SPEAKER_01]: There were a lot of, like, overused action tricks, but I will say, like, there were one or two moments where at least the visuals, I was like, oh, it's, I kind of fun to see the final fight that she has in the, like, dust storm. [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, the one with the worst needle dropped of all time, which is the main, the main thing people are talking about with this movie, which is not what you want when you put a movie out.

[SPEAKER_01]: So I saw a letterbox review that was like, I would have rather than play we are Charlie Kirk.

[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, well, at least that would have been funny, which this movie was not other one. [SPEAKER_01]: It's in an Occupella version of a Jimmy Eatworld song. [SPEAKER_01]: Give me a fucking break. [SPEAKER_00]: Like a fucking like whispers singing ass, like, yeah, to do version. [SPEAKER_01]: So like, the needle drops in general kind of lead me to this thought that like, [SPEAKER_01]: This movie, my personal letter box review was that, hey, you know, when sometimes you make leftovers from, you don't, you don't Emily personally notice because you've never in a leftover in your life, but staunchly anti-left over, fun fact about Emily, but [SPEAKER_01]: You know, when you make leftovers from four different meals you had throughout the week and just assume they're gonna be fine together That is what this movie is the experience of because the needle drops felt very like I don't know if it was James guns influence or if they were trying to This director was trying to like reheat James gun vibes with like Because that's the thing James gun is like particularly skilled at is these like [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, interesting needle drops that like, you know, bring a different flavor to a scene, there's that, and then the stuff with the brides, which I'd love to get into, that we will certainly get into that.

[SPEAKER_01]: Give like Fury Road? [SPEAKER_01]: Yes. [SPEAKER_01]: Exactly. [SPEAKER_00]: Somehow like fucking scooped out and like completely hollow.

[SPEAKER_01]: But it was like Jason Mamoa, essentially in like a jumanji reboot or something. [SPEAKER_01]: It's just in his own movie with a motorcycle. [SPEAKER_00]: Everything about it was like if you found yourself in a room and you looked around and you were like, wow, it looks like I'm in the woods and then you touched and then you tried to walk and then you're like, it's all just plywood painted to look like the woods. [SPEAKER_00]: It was that of all these influences. [SPEAKER_00]: It was like there was absolutely nothing there.

[SPEAKER_00]: Like yeah, the needle drops were all so clunky, where it was like, I shouldn't be noticing this much. [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, like, you know, it should give me an emotion. [SPEAKER_00]: Right, but it's like, how am I so aware of them? [SPEAKER_00]: Yet I feel nothing. [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, yeah, exactly. [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, needle drops. [SPEAKER_01]: I think like easy route to emotion and a movie would be like interesting needle drop or a dog, but too bad the dog in these Superman movies looks like shit.

[SPEAKER_00]: And even though he looked like shit and Superman too, Superman too.

[SPEAKER_01]: Superman comma as well. [SPEAKER_00]: Maybe? [SPEAKER_00]: Is that what I meant? [SPEAKER_00]: I don't know. [SPEAKER_00]: I think that's what I meant. [SPEAKER_00]: And then while I was saying the sentence, I forgot what I was saying. [SPEAKER_00]: And so then I heard myself say Superman too, and I got confused. [SPEAKER_01]: It's a night recording. [SPEAKER_01]: What can we do? [SPEAKER_00]: Wow. [SPEAKER_00]: Um, so yes, he looks, he looks like shit in Superman as well. [SPEAKER_00]: But it's Superman.

[SPEAKER_00]: I remember liking the dog. [SPEAKER_00]: Like when he's like bouncing around with the cows and stuff.

[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it wasn't as obvious and maybe that's just because so much of Superman was more enjoyable to be watching like the story with the characters everything was just a little more interesting so the cracks didn't show in like the dog because I was in a better mood watching it yeah also it's because crypto is not the crux of everything in Superman, right? [SPEAKER_00]: We're right. [SPEAKER_00]: With this Yeah, it's supposed to be the entire emotional center, but I'm like this is not

[SPEAKER_00]: resonating and I like usually yeah dogs are a real shortcut to feelings right everything about this movie just feels so hollow that it's like there's not I could not possibly care about a single thing the stakes feel completely not an existent yeah and I think that there were like big character mistakes made in the beginning of the movie where not enough time was spent like

[SPEAKER_01]: helping us to find super girl to be charming and like, you know, if not capable at least sort of like not completely, I don't know, they needed something to get us on her side other than like, [SPEAKER_01]: They just sort of had her be kind of a bitch Yeah, and just kind of a mess. [SPEAKER_00]: Okay. [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, she's messy, but also it's like someone's like, oh, no She doesn't really have a job, so that seems Fine, I guess like it's just Don't and it's like all these fucking planets look the same The fact also that this big difference between Superman and this is that like [SPEAKER_00]: This is fully just like a space movie.

[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, right, which is not your flavors already. [SPEAKER_01]: So it's, and all the things they need to work pretty hard to get you to like a space movie. [SPEAKER_00]: And they didn't, they did not work hard.

[SPEAKER_00]: No, the character was just so nothing, and like then I think that movies really overestimate how much people want to see like a precocious child main character for a full movie. [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, and by that do you mean Ruthie or do you mean Ruthie? [SPEAKER_01]: Supergirl. [SPEAKER_01]: Okay. [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_01]: Because I mean, I was supergirls not a child, right? [SPEAKER_01]: Yes, she has like, she has like, she has like, turning 23. [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_00]: But no, the like, the actual kid.

[SPEAKER_00]: I'm just like, dude, why am I having to like, [SPEAKER_00]: watch this kid this will move me like don't make me babysitter is not really doing anything is very very sort of like game of thrones central casting vibes with the accent and the the precociousness and the [SPEAKER_01]: it's just like why why is this one of the two main characters it's because also like to be honest there's a way to do it and it is give us fucking anything without her family before we are thrown into the adventure like if it was set up where [SPEAKER_01]: We see Supergirl and she is a mess but she's fun and so we're like, oh, it's cool like whatever and then we see Ruthy training with her dad.

[SPEAKER_01]: There's some sort of like a beautiful bond that we care about but to just be thrown into the situation Is like a huge character mistake to me because by the time the story is kicking off. [SPEAKER_01]: I'm like, I don't give a fuck about any of these people or what happens with them like no

[SPEAKER_01]: I think what is frustrating is that like, I think that this has like a lot of source material on it. [SPEAKER_01]: From what I understand, this story pulled from like a very good comic that is like beloved by everybody and is like a rich source material to pull from. [SPEAKER_01]: So it's not like you didn't have the stuff to like,

[SPEAKER_01]: build out a good story and a good character experience. [SPEAKER_01]: And the fact that you're just assuming we're going to be in the bag because it said DC in the beginning or whatever is like it's not a reading past. [SPEAKER_01]: And it's also not treating comic fans who like go to these because they care about this thing. [SPEAKER_01]: It's not treating them with any respect. [SPEAKER_01]: It's like you'll watch this greasy slap because you know this person already. [SPEAKER_00]: You know, that's the thing that kept like, I think that I think that like people overused Slop as a descriptor, but it's like this movie, that was the only word that came to mind.

[SPEAKER_00]: Was it was like, yeah, it's Slop in a bowl. [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, and it really sucks. [SPEAKER_01]: Um, and especially because I want Millie Alcock, I want to watch her in something cool. [SPEAKER_01]: Like, she's fun to watch. [SPEAKER_00]: No, she's, she's like a good actress. [SPEAKER_00]: Um, it's just that like, even in the couple, even in like that Superman scene in the end, I'm like, they just made that a

[SPEAKER_01]: Well, and so there are two things that I thought did work for me in this movie, and one was that, for me, her backstory stuff worked. [SPEAKER_01]: I found it sad. [SPEAKER_01]: I found it interesting, and then the Superman stuff worked. [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, not the shit where he's face timing, and it's like, [SPEAKER_00]: He looks like he's in front of a zoom back around. [SPEAKER_00]: I don't know why would he be in the suit if he's just calling me. [SPEAKER_01]: But he's just at home, he doesn't have to do this.

[SPEAKER_01]: But the stuff where he, the two scenes in the movie, where he is in person with her, [SPEAKER_01]: they have really good chemistry and the backstory stuff to me worked really well when Superman's with her because the juxtaposition of how they experience their home planet is so has such a kind of like rich tension that like yeah she's mourning something real that she lived and he is just kind of like lives an idea he doesn't know and I think that that works really well. [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I also found the backstory to be one of the only parts I was actually interested in, but honestly even the way they did it, I was like [SPEAKER_00]: confused by the logistics of this if we're being realy here.

[SPEAKER_00]: Like there were honestly there were a lot of confusing and someone's gonna call me dumb. [SPEAKER_00]: I know it but like there are just so many like logistics. [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah this movie about it like the the cryptonium radiation versus

[SPEAKER_00]: In your body versus green sun, red sun, yellow sun, the force field and somehow that made them break off, but like, it's just a, yeah, it's kind of messy logistics. [SPEAKER_01]: I, yeah, I didn't even let myself, I was too distracted by the other things annoying me to really have any critical thoughts about that stuff. [SPEAKER_01]: But I do remember being kind of, I mean, I also just like, I don't read these comics, I don't read comics in general, so I don't, I'm open to these movies, but I like don't really know the source material in a lot of ways.

[SPEAKER_01]: I am the audience that these movies should be a shoe-in for, because I like action. [SPEAKER_01]: I like an action adventure where people are traveling on an adventure and then they get into fights. [SPEAKER_01]: Like, that's a genre I enjoy. [SPEAKER_01]: So I should be able to drop into any of these movies and be like, nice, this is a good idea. [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, because for these to succeed, it can't just be the nerds. [SPEAKER_01]: No offense to nerds, but like you're not the only, you know, you're not that big of a population.

[SPEAKER_01]: It has to appeal to everybody. [SPEAKER_01]: And they, they swung like too hard trying to appeal to everybody where they're like, we got, [SPEAKER_00]: We got Jason Mimala in one movie, and we got Millie, is in Wonder Woman, but also drunk, which also look, this isn't her fault. [SPEAKER_00]: I just like, drunk acting is really hard to watch. [SPEAKER_00]: It is always really, quite painful to watch because it's, [SPEAKER_00]: It's somehow, no matter how good the actor is, it always is like you are watching a middle schooler in the school play pretending to be like a drunk old man.

[SPEAKER_00]: It's like that is somehow how it always comes off. [SPEAKER_00]: Even when people have been drunk, many times before. [SPEAKER_00]: Never translates to screen,

[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, and also I think it would have been more interesting, honestly, if she was like out of shape or clumsy. [SPEAKER_01]: You know what I'm saying? [SPEAKER_01]: Like some of those scenes, there's just like, yeah, she's on the red sun planet, so she's like out of shape. [SPEAKER_01]: And that's more interesting to watch. [SPEAKER_00]: Because when she starts with the guy with the sword outside on the red planet, it's like, Okay, so you don't have any of your powers, but you still have like, [SPEAKER_00]: These crazy Fighting abilities.

[SPEAKER_00]: Why?

[SPEAKER_01]: That's I did get confused when she's like, I don't have any of my powers. [SPEAKER_01]: And I was like, and not any of them. [SPEAKER_00]: I saw you What I saw you do like 10 flips around like a hole and then kick like a very large alien [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, that stuff they just assumed we wouldn't care and you know a lot of the stuff in this movie I just feels like isn't sulting to the audience. [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, and I don't think the audience is that stupid I think that people are smarter than that I would would hope I think we should talk about the brides.

[SPEAKER_01]: Oh my god. [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, that was really [SPEAKER_00]: the craziest um what they did slash didn't do with that was the craziest shit that was actually like it's so funny that this like they were trying to sell this is like which obviously like I don't think anyone was buying this but the way they're trying to like sell it like them and is um which okay but it's like then to have the the brides aspect on the way that's treated [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, it really pissed me off. [SPEAKER_01]: The second that was revealed, I was like, fuck this movie so bad.

[SPEAKER_01]: Because while I don't think that I didn't go into supergirl expecting a feminist, you know, and a deep exploration of feminism, I think, [SPEAKER_01]: Having super girl be the savior of girls that are in danger of like sexual violence and slavery essentially invites feminism into the like it invites a feminist lens sure it's like how to look at this if you're going to bring that in the plot into the plot then yeah people are going to examine what you're going to do with that [SPEAKER_01]: Yes, and it made me so angry, because the truth is, I don't like that.

[SPEAKER_01]: I was like, oh, it'll be cool to just, she just goes on an adventure, and that's what it is. [SPEAKER_01]: To have it be like, she's super girl. [SPEAKER_01]: We're calling out the fact that it's weird that she's girl, and he's man, and isn't that sexist? [SPEAKER_00]: Which is that line, I was like, oh.

[SPEAKER_01]: But if you're going to do that line, then it's not, it can't be that the only thing she is doing is saving girls from the Epstein island, you know what I mean? [SPEAKER_01]: her only the only way that she can like spring into action and stop people from peril is if it's girls that are going to be raped well okay that's interesting because I almost had a different issue with it that's yours mine was that like [SPEAKER_00]: that is such like a big reveal of it's like okay they're kidnapping a bunch of girls from their homes and like yeah selling them into sex slavery like in in mass and that's not the B plot that's not the C plot it's like maybe the F plot it's like it is barely touched on and even when they're like this guy's bad [SPEAKER_00]: Still always it's the dog at the forefront and the I want revenge at the forefront, which like yes, it's also very bad that he's just going in and like Slaughter and families, of course.

[SPEAKER_00]: That's also bad, but it's like this guy is like a major Human trafficker of sex slaves that he has kidnapped from their homes and that like barely gets touched on [SPEAKER_01]: That's crazy to me. [SPEAKER_00]: Like, yeah, because they want that element from a fury road. [SPEAKER_00]: But like fury road is like basically all about that. [SPEAKER_00]: You know, like it's like, that's the whole thing where is this? [SPEAKER_00]: They're like, oh yeah, and I'm like, you know what's this?

[SPEAKER_00]: And then you see it's like, yeah, there's that one part where there's that one cardinal of girls that they, [SPEAKER_00]: free to why assume get kidnapped again because then they don't really do much about it after that but then later you're like there are so many of these girls that they have all over the fucking place. [SPEAKER_00]: And it's just such an afterthought. [SPEAKER_00]: And it is like, the most harrowing element introduced into this story, but even at the end, when Ruthie's like, the bride, which also, it's actually fucked up to call them the brides, which is, I know.

[SPEAKER_00]: That's actually really fucked up that they just immediately start calling them that. [SPEAKER_00]: And it's like, well, no, that's what the, that's what the guys are children. [SPEAKER_00]: But if I think that's like, that's what these guys who are buying them are calling them. [SPEAKER_00]: Why are you calling them that's super girl? [SPEAKER_00]: But, you know, the end when it's like, she's like, Rosie's like, the birds are still in there and then she goes and like shoots a hole and then they just kind of come out into a battle scene.

[SPEAKER_00]: And then it's just like, well, that's that. [SPEAKER_00]: I still don't know why it's here in the desert. [SPEAKER_00]: It's just, just figure it out. [SPEAKER_00]: I think that's a crazy thing to like bring into the picture and then give like nothing. [SPEAKER_00]: And...

[SPEAKER_01]: I definitely see what you're saying. [SPEAKER_01]: I was not thinking that in the movie what I was because I think to me how it was reading was that like [SPEAKER_01]: This is brought up once and it does kind of activate her a little more than any other piece of information has, not Ruthie saying my whole family was just slaughtered for no reason, not anyone who was saying they were in any kind of danger. [SPEAKER_01]: She was like none of my business. [SPEAKER_01]: I don't care. [SPEAKER_01]: She finds out about these girls and it like activates her a little more and then in the fight scene that takes place like in the like slums of that place, that planet.

[SPEAKER_01]: She's very focused on the girls. [SPEAKER_01]: That's all she's really doing. [SPEAKER_01]: She's trying to like save each girl and it's like, okay, okay. [SPEAKER_01]: Like, okay. [SPEAKER_01]: So that's fine. [SPEAKER_01]: Fine. [SPEAKER_01]: I think it's incredibly lazy storytelling that the only parallel you can put girls in is rape. [SPEAKER_00]: Yes, it's yeah, it's other planets. [SPEAKER_01]: There's no other parallel that these girls could be in the yeah, and maybe it doesn't have to be girls, but like if you're going to if they're going to woman superhero superheroes and make them, you know, you can only fight girl fights It just was like out of breath.

[SPEAKER_01]: I'm so agitated by this [SPEAKER_01]: Like, really annoyed me in the movie. [SPEAKER_01]: This is the second it was revealed. [SPEAKER_01]: I was like, what the fuck, this is this sucks so bad. [SPEAKER_01]: Even Wonder Woman didn't like drop the ball this bad. [SPEAKER_00]: That's saying a lot. [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, yeah, and it's like, I just was so frustrated by it. [SPEAKER_01]: And you know, they have her, whatever. [SPEAKER_01]: She does all that stuff, and it's like, okay, it's so great.

[SPEAKER_01]: That's the story you decided to tell. [SPEAKER_01]: And that's maybe in that's in the comic. [SPEAKER_01]: That's probably in the comic. [SPEAKER_01]: But either way, it's like completely irritating the way it's presented. [SPEAKER_01]: I'm sure part of the problem is that it was a fucking male director. [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, which like, I don't, you know, every woman that says this online has to caveat it and I'm going to do it too. [SPEAKER_01]: I'm not saying any story about a woman has to be directed by a woman.

[SPEAKER_01]: But I am saying, if that's the message of what you're doing, it is a confusing message because you're also like, [SPEAKER_01]: so much of the narrative leading up to these movies when they're a female superhero is like okay women you have to go see this or they're never gonna try to tell your story yeah and it's like okay can a woman do it because like this guide doesn't know anything about me that's something it's just as English like I think that may be like

[SPEAKER_00]: Maybe it could have been better if it was directed by a woman. [SPEAKER_00]: Maybe she could have brought some more specific depth to the character of Supergirl or something who I just found to be such like a hollow shell of a character. [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, she was played really, I mean, like, she, yeah, she was definitely, again, Millie, Millie innocent. [SPEAKER_01]: She was played to be so hollow, just like, yeah. [SPEAKER_01]: Oh, I just don't give a shit. [SPEAKER_01]: And I'm sad.

[SPEAKER_01]: And it's like, this story is about healing your inner child and like, [SPEAKER_01]: dealing with grief and all this stuff and it's like, yeah, it was done with no care and then you're going to invite invite a feminist lens and if feminist thinking about your movie and then you're going to have Jason Momoa call this girl Tits after she just saved everybody that that [SPEAKER_01]: That turned me into Bane. [SPEAKER_01]: I was like, I'm gonna blow up this theater. [SPEAKER_00]: I am so mad.

[SPEAKER_00]: That character was so fucking reddit. [SPEAKER_00]: But it's like, and then even with like, the super girl character, it's like, okay, unlike Superman, she's like, that's crazy party girl who like, parties to try to like, forget the pain of her home planet going away. [SPEAKER_00]: But she's like we kind of actually don't even like see her party. [SPEAKER_00]: I think there may be like one clip in that beginning montage But like truly most of the time We're just seeing her sitting alone at a bar drinking, which I know that is a type of person as well But it's like that's a really boring characterization for a character is for a characterization That we don't know yet

[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, and I just think it was a missed opportunity to get us on her side, to show us that she's something, anything other than just kind of like sad. [SPEAKER_01]: When you even if we're going to get to sad, I think we need to see something other than sad at first. [SPEAKER_01]: Some joy. [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, yeah, and like, you know, the party girl who then it sort of comes crumbling down a little bit, but it's like, yeah, we're just kind of, I don't know, she's being kind of boring, but I also it was [SPEAKER_00]: It the end did fix it a bit, but like the entire movie was very indulging one of my least favorite tropes, like truly pisses me off to no end, which is the no, we can't kill the spad guy because then we're as bad as him.

[SPEAKER_00]: And, right, that always annoys me more than anything else on Earth truly, and it's like I was glad that she did kill him in the end But the whole time her stopping Ruthy from killing him, which was like this girl watched her whole family be slaughtered Like I think she's already fucked up like this guy is he's he is a human trafficker like [SPEAKER_00]: mass murderer. [SPEAKER_00]: It's okay to kill him. [SPEAKER_00]: There's nothing morally wrong with killing this man. [SPEAKER_00]: It is morally, like honestly, the precocious kid who annoyed me most of the time, she is not wrong when she's like that whole little family is dead because you stopped me from killing him just now.

[SPEAKER_00]: She's not wrong. [SPEAKER_00]: Right. [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, and that, I mean, that could be an interesting moral tension that they could, they didn't play with it at all, it's not really something the movie's interested in, but because, and I get that Superman doesn't really dabble in moral tension,

[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I was glad that because also, yeah, when she was talking her out of killing that guy, I was like, I mean, this guy's just gonna He's never gonna stop coming after you. [SPEAKER_01]: It's not really, it's just not that type of situation. [SPEAKER_01]: There's gonna be no consequences, no cops. [SPEAKER_00]: It also, that whole little speech doesn't really hit when [SPEAKER_00]: She just killed a bunch of bad guys. [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I'm sticky. [SPEAKER_01]: That was like this girl has quite a body count to be like, they don't take it easy.

[SPEAKER_00]: And it doesn't seem like it would be one thing if it was like, that's her trauma that she's carrying. [SPEAKER_00]: But it's not, it doesn't seem to be. [SPEAKER_00]: The movie certainly doesn't act like that's the case. [SPEAKER_00]: So it's like, why are...

[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, yeah, yeah, that is interesting. [SPEAKER_01]: I didn't even really think of that, but she's like teaching Ruthie this lesson of like, when you kill people, it's, it fucks with you forever, but like, that's not her issue. [SPEAKER_01]: That she doesn't seem to feel guilty at all about the people she's killed. [SPEAKER_00]: And I mean, like, I don't think she should. [SPEAKER_00]: They're very, very bad people, but it's just, yeah, it's just doesn't hit.

[SPEAKER_01]: that character, who I think is named like cream or something. [SPEAKER_01]: Um, the villain. [SPEAKER_01]: The villain who is like, I also was like, is this like an offensive like Russian guy? [SPEAKER_01]: He was, he was very, he was very slavic. [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, which is, seems rude. [SPEAKER_01]: Um, we don't need to make the alien people seem like they're from specific countries, I think.

[SPEAKER_01]: But that yeah, I guess in the comics that character is like a guy who does a genocides on entire planets So it's like even more Yeah, like it's sort of funny. [SPEAKER_01]: They dumped him down to just be like, oh, he's just a piece of the trafficer. [SPEAKER_01]: No big deal. [SPEAKER_01]: I couldn't tell if like He was [SPEAKER_00]: Because like maybe it seemed like maybe he was kind of doing a genocide on that half-dead planet, or I don't know. [SPEAKER_00]: But it's like he was so evil that it's like, it's silly to like him and ha over like killing the sky.

[SPEAKER_01]: Right. [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it just doesn't make any sense. [SPEAKER_01]: And I am glad that he was killed in the end, because it was about to be so annoying. [SPEAKER_00]: Because I mean it's the same thing in like a lot of horror movies where it's like [SPEAKER_01]: you know, someone knocks out the murderer, but like, and it's like, yeah, just stop him in the neck after you do that, at least when it's a horror movie and it's like based in like this reality, like, I get regular people being like, I can't, but it's like people go in these like action adventures where there's an insane body count, then it's like, what's one more, guys?

[SPEAKER_01]: Because because you slowed down,

[SPEAKER_00]: Um, yeah, I, I, I just like truly found it to be a painful and tedious experience. [SPEAKER_01]: Yes, I did as well. [SPEAKER_01]: I don't, I've run through all of my notes. [SPEAKER_01]: So, I don't know if I have anything else to say. [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, we talked about how it looked like absolute dog shit, um, oh my god Earlier you were talking about this guy trying to reheat James Guns is not shows. [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah

[SPEAKER_00]: The little the little bus guy the Sethrogan. [SPEAKER_00]: Oh my gosh. [SPEAKER_00]: He was Trying to reheat the tiny babu fricks not shows like crazy. [SPEAKER_01]: I know wasn't it did not work for me Yeah, no, it can't have Sethrogan's regular speaking voice But also I was like I and I know who you are. [SPEAKER_00]: I know who you're trying to be and you're not him You'll never be [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I think, I actually think this, I mean, it also reheated Star Wars nachos and essentially trying to completely rebuild the Cantina scene, like they go into that.

[SPEAKER_01]: It's just like, you just can't do that in these sci-fi's anymore. [SPEAKER_01]: It's so, unless you're making a very specific and clear homage, but like, yeah. [SPEAKER_01]: in a shitty sci-fi, then it's like, okay. [SPEAKER_00]: And then honestly, everything on Ruthie's planet, where it was like, from her being all like, did I do it from Clown, blah, blah, blah, on her family makes swords. [SPEAKER_00]: And then the alien doctor in that tent, that felt very like them just directly trying to be like, we got Jason Momolo.

[SPEAKER_00]: Should we, like, shove some game of thrones in there?

[SPEAKER_01]: You know, I just realized there's a sequence I didn't hate, which was I kind of thought the like interplanetary bus logistics were kind of funny.

[SPEAKER_01]: I, which part specifically, so I like that she just goes to a bus stop and then a spaceship goes to the bus stop and there's drivers and then it's, and then it's the classic bus experience of like two crowded, grimy, like, you know, you're around a bunch of different types of aliens that are all doing like stinky or weird things. [SPEAKER_01]: I thought that stuff was kind of the most charming thing that happened in the interplanetary stuff. [SPEAKER_00]: And, okay, I did kind of like, I wouldn't even say like, but just didn't mind how the space pirate ladies, I did like how their costumes and stuff, [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, it did look like they were just painted blue with like shitty wigs on and I did it.

[SPEAKER_00]: I did like that I like that they all had like baby bangs wigs There was something about that that was so just kind of like Practical and a little shitty sort of like into planetary like turf Portland or didn't pirates [SPEAKER_01]: Like visually they were the only thing I didn't think like total dog shit because it just looked like some ladies painted like actually painted blue Yes, and I also kind of liked the trick that they're like that fight was kind of interesting looking that it was like a little button that made them like disappear and reappear.

[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah [SPEAKER_01]: That had very James gun vibes, the fight sequence of that. [SPEAKER_01]: I was reminded me of James gun movies But then it really goes downhill after Yeah, this I just I hated this movie so much Yeah, it was really bad. [SPEAKER_01]: I think can we spend the last 15 minutes talking about jackass? [SPEAKER_00]: Yes, okay, so I

[SPEAKER_00]: We only kind of talked about talking about Jackass and we're recording this Saturday night. [SPEAKER_00]: And I didn't have time to see it yet. [SPEAKER_00]: I haven't seen Jack as yet. [SPEAKER_01]: I'm sorry. [SPEAKER_01]: Tell me until we got on the call.

[SPEAKER_01]: I have prepared my thoughts. [SPEAKER_00]: So, we are going to talk about it, but Vosli Ivana is going to talk about it at me and I will listen and ask questions and then I'll probably see it out a weekend.

[SPEAKER_01]: Um, no, I hope you do see it. [SPEAKER_01]: It's really fun. [SPEAKER_00]: I definitely will. [SPEAKER_00]: I'll probably see it within like the next day or two. [SPEAKER_01]: Um, we'll do an emergency. [SPEAKER_01]: I'll alert Emily, yes, so listen.

[SPEAKER_01]: I was in high school in Jackass came out, so to say these men mean a lot to me would be an understatement. [SPEAKER_00]: These men are everything to me.

[SPEAKER_01]: I'm trying to reframe anything I was going to say for spoilers for you, you know what? [SPEAKER_00]: It's okay because [SPEAKER_00]: I feel like the joy isn't watching it happen. [SPEAKER_00]: So you, I mean, truly, I don't want you to be seen. [SPEAKER_00]: I already, I also, I already like specifically got some spoilers. [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I mean, and there's nothing like too crazy in it. [SPEAKER_01]: There are a couple of reveals. [SPEAKER_01]: I think that you would only really care about, if you were like a really closely tracking what happened in all of the movies.

[SPEAKER_01]: I don't think anybody is. [SPEAKER_01]: I have, skaters maybe are.

[SPEAKER_01]: So yeah, I was in high school when Jack asked first came on TV. [SPEAKER_01]: Wow, I had printed from my mom's printer, pictures of Johnny Knoxville on my binder.

[SPEAKER_01]: for a school, and I really love these men, and there's been a lot of talk, like, I think, you know, them saying that this is the last one, and people are really caveatting that when they talk about it in interviews, they're like, they claim it's the last one, I believe them. [SPEAKER_01]: I think that their bodies can't do this anymore, sad, and

[SPEAKER_01]: they never really handed it down to anybody and I think it's actually fine. [SPEAKER_01]: I think that what people are saying rightly so is that like this was about friendship the whole time and that these relationships are what Jack asks is.

[SPEAKER_01]: And so yeah I believe them when they say it's the last one. [SPEAKER_01]: I felt like the last one Knoxville cries a couple of times talking about it in the movie and I really

[SPEAKER_01]: And I've thought a lot about, like, why do I love Jackass so much?

[SPEAKER_01]: And I think that, for me, I think because this came out when I was in high school, and I've essentially aged with these guys. [SPEAKER_01]: Like, they've got to be like maybe 10 years older than me or something somewhere in there, maybe looks closer.

[SPEAKER_01]: But like 25, you know, it's probably like six or seven years older than me. [SPEAKER_01]: And I've aged with them, and like I'm a churred with them, and I've I've had the same experiences although not quite, but like I've [SPEAKER_01]: You know, had falling out with friends. [SPEAKER_01]: I've had friends to I've lost people and it's present in this movie because this movie is essentially half clip package of like best of and then half new stunts. [SPEAKER_01]: I would say a lot of the new stunts are quite piss and shit forward because they can't do the they can't do the rough shit to their bodies and more and um do they have in it speed they go at you know what that makes me think though is like you know how with this closure day we were talking about how like [SPEAKER_00]: Steven Spielberg and like older Indiana Jones is like him.

[SPEAKER_00]: I'm gonna like reckon with age It's like piss and shit as how they reckon with age because that is one of the things in which you have to deal with [SPEAKER_01]: your body eventually failing with you in regards to, oh, even more so, they do a stunt using the colonoscopy juice. [SPEAKER_01]: That's what I heard. [SPEAKER_01]: That's like the nastiest. [SPEAKER_01]: It's really gross, but it's also like, [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, it has like gross, as it was, I was like, this is very interesting to watch that even the sort of like the core of the stunts matured with them.

[SPEAKER_01]: They're at the age where they all have to do this stuff and they were like, oh wouldn't it be funny? [SPEAKER_01]: And it's something they would not have even been aware of at 25, you know? [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, yeah, totally. [SPEAKER_01]: So there was something kind of sweet about that.

[SPEAKER_01]: I loved BAM as well as Jackass and he's, you know, notably like not in the movie and wasn't in the right place in his recovery to be in the movie, but they do show an un-aired stunt with him that was shot for the last movie, so he was like, it's like recent-ish BAM, you know? [SPEAKER_01]: and it was really nice to see him and really nice to see him with Johnny and I don't know that like all that stuff meant so much to me. [SPEAKER_01]: I think that would have realized is that what means a lot to me about Jackass outside of the fact that it's like a really beautiful version of friendship like all of these men while they're doing the horrific shit [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, there's a line of men like cheering each other on and like slick giggling and having fun and like there's something so joyful about it even when they're doing even when one guy is like doing something horrible to these balls

[SPEAKER_01]: There's like they're like oh my god, and they're like love it and they're they're very physical with each other They're like so affectionate. [SPEAKER_01]: Lots of people have like rightly said that this is like of an extremely positive Expression of male friendship. [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I would say this is what I understood Ideal masculinity to be my whole life because of where I saw it I think that's a very good idea to have a good braid of masculinity [SPEAKER_01]: It's just, and we should accept less in 1999, in Long Beach, California, the skaters were, like, some of the most masculine people that you knew socially.

[SPEAKER_01]: And so it just was like, yeah, it's just very funny that this like sort of like goofball, skater guy culture has really been quite formative. [SPEAKER_01]: I think not only to me. [SPEAKER_01]: I think to a lot of shipper. [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_01]: And a lot of women. [SPEAKER_01]: I think a lot of women formed their idea of masculinity. [UNKNOWN]: All right. [SPEAKER_00]: These guys and how they treat each other. [SPEAKER_01]: And it just meant a lot to me to watch. [SPEAKER_01]: And I really cried in the end and they play that.

[SPEAKER_01]: oh my god, they play that fucking song um um oh I'm not gonna sing I almost sang sing sing maga

[SPEAKER_01]: I'll see you there, don't know where, don't know where, oh yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah [SPEAKER_01]: And then being like older and also beautiful, but older, you know, I don't know, it just is like very meaningful.

[SPEAKER_01]: And I think what's funny about it is like these movies are funny to pair together because in a lot of ways they're in the same genre, which is a cash grab except one of them I really respect and support [SPEAKER_01]: And one of them costed way too much money and we'll probably bomb at the box office. [SPEAKER_01]: It's so bad. [SPEAKER_00]: It is, which brings me no joy, but it deserves it. [SPEAKER_00]: How are the new Jen? [SPEAKER_00]: Guys, this one.

[SPEAKER_01]: They're fine. [SPEAKER_01]: I had to sort of question a little bit of my potential internalized misogyny with the girl because she doesn't. [SPEAKER_01]: They don't have her do any stunts. [SPEAKER_01]: I did hear that. [SPEAKER_01]: And it completely irritate. [SPEAKER_01]: I like it started to make me mad. [SPEAKER_01]: Like, well, why is she there? [SPEAKER_01]: Like, I found myself mad at her and I was joking with my friends that I went to see it with. [SPEAKER_01]: And I was like, I really had to like question myself a little bit while I was thinking that [SPEAKER_01]: I'm a cool brunette too, I can also be there, but I think that's like a big mistake.

[SPEAKER_01]: In the end clip package, they show her doing a bunch of stunts that they've cut for like one second. [SPEAKER_01]: So it's clear that they shot some stuff and then just didn't use it, but that is like the biggest mistake that movie makes because it gives the energy of like, oh, she's just the eye candy. [SPEAKER_01]: Um, you know what I mean, which is like not where her role is, and yeah, it's just not fair to sort of accidentally make the audience feel that way. [SPEAKER_01]: Right.

[SPEAKER_00]: Um, but the other guys are good. [SPEAKER_00]: I remember from the last one, I had, I left with a big crush on poopies.

[SPEAKER_01]: There's some crazy stuff with poopies on this one. [SPEAKER_01]: I love poopies. [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I can't wait for you to see what poopies gets up to in this one. [SPEAKER_01]: It's really insane.

[SPEAKER_01]: It's really, really insane. [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, and then there's Jasper, and then also, like, Jasper's dad is also just doing the stunts so times, which I think is funny. [SPEAKER_01]: They show a clip in the movie from the TV show that I fully fucking forgot, which is when they have bread pit.

[SPEAKER_01]: Did you ever see the bread pit prank that they did? [SPEAKER_00]: I don't know. [SPEAKER_01]: No, I guess not. [SPEAKER_01]: I guess I would remember if I. I won't tell you what it is that you'll little be okay. [SPEAKER_01]: Okay. [SPEAKER_01]: Okay. [SPEAKER_01]: Okay. [SPEAKER_01]: Okay. [SPEAKER_01]: But I fully forgot that they shot a prank with Brad Pitt in the TV show. [SPEAKER_00]: I see I really do not have like a long relationship with Jackass at all. [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_00]: Um, I guess like I don't know.

[SPEAKER_00]: I guess I just wasn't [SPEAKER_00]: I, I don't know, maybe I just didn't think it was for me and I didn't have any like friends who were boys as a teenager that like showed it to me or whatever. [SPEAKER_00]: So the first, the first time I really like locked in, watched it was seeing the last one in theater, in the theater. [SPEAKER_00]: Interesting. [SPEAKER_00]: And so I'm really not familiar with like,

[SPEAKER_00]: the the lore, but I mean that was a wonderful experience, and I had an incredible time, and I loved it, and I laughed so hard, and I also, like, yeah, of course anything Johnny Knoxville is so hot. [SPEAKER_00]: I mean, it's unbelievable. [SPEAKER_00]: He's so hot. [SPEAKER_01]: He's also just like, style. [SPEAKER_01]: Like, I love the way he dresses so much. [SPEAKER_01]: I think it's always cool. [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_01]: It's something I wish I could embody, but I don't know the

[SPEAKER_00]: very much the same hyper genre within a genre of men. [SPEAKER_00]: Yes, and, um,

[SPEAKER_00]: So hot, so hot, so funny, so hot, and then just, there is something really, unfortunately so attractive about a man who just like, is a little crazy and things he's never going to die. [SPEAKER_00]: Well, I think there is, I think there's something, [SPEAKER_01]: Like now he now he knows he is going to die, right, right, yeah, but but I think there is something biological about finding Someone who doesn't have any risk of version attractive, there I think there's something going on with that because I think that people [SPEAKER_01]: I think it isn't a track.

[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, it couldn't be me. [SPEAKER_01]: I'm very risk-averse. [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, same. [SPEAKER_00]: I don't, I don't like, I don't like going up on a ladder. [SPEAKER_00]: You know? [SPEAKER_01]: But I like lots of attractive when people don't really, they're not worried about it. [SPEAKER_01]: And it's like, oh, cool. [SPEAKER_00]: There's just something kind of like, a electric about it. [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, also can I be honest something you said something a minute ago that really clicked some of our different tastes into place for me that you didn't have any friends who were boys in high school that were showing you stuff yeah I my closest friends was my cousin and his friends

[SPEAKER_01]: And from the time I was like in middle school until like all throughout high school. [SPEAKER_01]: And then my first boyfriend was like one of my cousin's friends. [SPEAKER_01]: And like, but so I was around boys. [SPEAKER_00]: That last much word and that sentence did a lot of work there.

[SPEAKER_00]: That was such an important word at the end. [SPEAKER_01]: Friend cousin's friend.

[SPEAKER_01]: My cousin's friend not my cousin. [SPEAKER_01]: No, no, but but yeah, I was around boy so much so like [SPEAKER_01]: Uh, I don't, like, my love of sci-fi, my love of video games, my love of, like, comic books, stuff, like, adjacent stuff. [SPEAKER_01]: Uh, all of that came from those friendships throughout, like, middle school and high school. [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_01]: And, I think you never had to be around boys. [SPEAKER_01]: So you never had to, like, experience it, really.

[SPEAKER_00]: Like, of course, like, I had some, like, [SPEAKER_00]: friends who were a bit not like close friends. [SPEAKER_00]: Like, and I got I am so scared that I'm like forgetting someone in high school that I was like randomly best friends with her. [SPEAKER_00]: Sorry to that person. [SPEAKER_00]: I feel like

[SPEAKER_00]: No, none of my best friends, except for Patrick, but he didn't live here from the time we were in like, third grade on. [SPEAKER_00]: So like, none of my best friends through high school were boys. [SPEAKER_00]: Then I feel like that changed and sort of evened out. [SPEAKER_00]: But yeah, that I think that also like that's interesting

[SPEAKER_01]: I don't want to say this, like you don't really, you know when you don't like a piece of boy media, right? [SPEAKER_01]: And you don't really try to like it more than would come naturally to you. [SPEAKER_01]: And I think I am so used to bending myself to try to understand what's good about it, that I taught myself to just like all that stuff, right?

[SPEAKER_01]: And it's not quite pigmed me because I never disliked girls, right? [SPEAKER_01]: I was, in fact, desperate for girls, friends, but that's just interesting. [SPEAKER_01]: That's like an interesting, because I noticed it in our... [SPEAKER_01]: our differences of what we like, that like you will often like stuff that's like cuter or like just more openly feminine. [SPEAKER_01]: I think, I mean also I think growing up, you know, whatever, it was all like Britney Spears and... [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

[SPEAKER_01]: Like the years that I was like a teenage girl, it was like a crime to like anything, girly. [SPEAKER_01]: And so, you know, I think socially I learned how to like bend my tastes. [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_01]: But like, and Jack asked, and it ended up being a part of it, but it's it's funny that it just is still so fundamental to me. [SPEAKER_01]: And I watched all of Viva LeBam. [SPEAKER_01]: I bought the CKY. [SPEAKER_01]: Do you even know

[SPEAKER_01]: Bam Marjera's brother's band. [SPEAKER_01]: Oh my gosh, and CKY would do it was the first concert I ever went to was a CKY concert. [SPEAKER_01]: I bought their skateboard DVDs [SPEAKER_01]: uh at tower records, I think, um because, and there was like C. K. Wi-Fi volume 1, volume 2, I think there were only 2 or I only ever had 2, but they, it was, those, those DVDs were a mix of like, [SPEAKER_00]: This is so long ago. [SPEAKER_01]: It's like a little tough for me to remember, super clearly.

[SPEAKER_01]: But I think it was a mix of like, music videos, or like footage of the band playing and then skateboard videos and then jackass style stunts but with Bam and his Pennsylvania group of people. [SPEAKER_01]: Wow. [SPEAKER_01]: And CKY videos were like the origin of Viva LeBam. [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, okay.

[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, that's, that's really, that's deep down the, I was deep, I was deep with the rabbit hole. [SPEAKER_01]: And you know what, I was out there convincing myself I loved skateboard videos. [SPEAKER_01]: I remember I bought a skateboard and would, I was like, I'm gonna, [SPEAKER_01]: I'm going to be skater and I would um the way my living room was set up in the apartment I lived in when I was like 19. [SPEAKER_01]: There was like a couch and then just like a tile floor behind the couch and then carpet where the couch was and I would just on the skateboard go back and forth on the tile floor because I was too scared to ride it outside.

[SPEAKER_00]: I mean [SPEAKER_00]: Part of it for me too, I think, because I too bought a skateboard and tried to get a skateboard at one point. [SPEAKER_00]: I think I was, because I definitely think there was an era where like, I really wanted to be like the cool chill girl and like, I always liked skaters. [SPEAKER_00]: That was always my type. [SPEAKER_00]: So like, I wanted to be the kind of girl they would like, whatever. [SPEAKER_00]: But it's like, I think I was always very,

[SPEAKER_00]: bad at being like the cool girl in that way. [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_00]: So it almost didn't make sense to

[SPEAKER_00]: Like if I had tried to make that my personality, it just simply wouldn't have worked. [SPEAKER_00]: So it was almost like an abandoned ship sort of situation. [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, like it was too unnatural for you. [SPEAKER_01]: I don't think it's actually what you're interested in. [SPEAKER_00]: And then there's like, there is some boy media that I naturally do really like. [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, there's some. [SPEAKER_01]: I really don't. [SPEAKER_01]: What's an example of when you do really like?

[SPEAKER_01]: God, I'm trying to think what are horror, I guess. [SPEAKER_01]: Maybe a little? [SPEAKER_00]: Like a.

[SPEAKER_00]: The way I can't think of a single thing when I'm trying to think of a thing. [SPEAKER_00]: You certainly like World War II. [SPEAKER_01]: You're like a period pieces. [SPEAKER_00]: Okay, what if it turned out my... [SPEAKER_00]: The voy media I meant was like, what grandpa's like, which is like...

[SPEAKER_01]: The movie pressure?

[SPEAKER_00]: This is the whole bookshelf of like coffee table as books on like different World War II like army sex God, I don't know I know there's something yeah, and then it's like I yeah I had never really engaged with that guys, but I did really like the one I saw so it's like I am sure I will really like this one [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, this one's great, it's got, I mean, in a lot of ways, it's great for you because you haven't seen a lot of Yeah, it's all going to be new to you, and I loved it the origins, also, or that like, Johnny was just trying to write an article for a skateboard magazine.

[SPEAKER_01]: That was just, or a BMX, I think it might have been a BMX magazine, even Sillier, and that's how they all

[SPEAKER_01]: Crazy, yeah, there's highly recommend for listeners. [SPEAKER_01]: I don't think you're gonna give a shit, but there's a new headgum podcast that's called like Jack asked the podcast where it is that Johnny sits down with the different members, including Spike Jones and Jeff Tremaine, the director and producer and like the brains behind the camera.

[SPEAKER_01]: where he's got they go through the history of like how they all came together and what it was and it's really fascinating that this it genuinely is just a group of friends and those is genuinely how they acted with each other [SPEAKER_01]: and someone pointed a camera at it. [SPEAKER_01]: That's great. [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_00]: I mean, I love, I love stuff about boy friendships. [SPEAKER_00]: I love everybody. [SPEAKER_00]: I love everybody. [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, that's a good boy friendship one.

[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_01]: A lot of canceled guys on that movie, but great movie. [SPEAKER_01]: Oh, man. [SPEAKER_01]: I can't even remember who's in that movie. [SPEAKER_01]: I can only remember the shorts in seams. [SPEAKER_01]: So good. [SPEAKER_01]: Such shorts, such thighs. [SPEAKER_00]: I mean, one of Glenn Powell's first, that's right. [SPEAKER_01]: And he's not canceled? [SPEAKER_01]: No, he is not canceled. [SPEAKER_01]: Till never be canceled, I think. [SPEAKER_00]: Oh, Monica's launching set.

[SPEAKER_01]: Huh? [SPEAKER_01]: Why, I believe it. [SPEAKER_01]: I'll knock on wood. [SPEAKER_01]: We'll knock on the... [SPEAKER_01]: Okay, I think we call it here. [SPEAKER_01]: Thank you for letting me ramble about Jackass for 20 minutes. [SPEAKER_01]: And maybe you haven't seen... [SPEAKER_00]: down this is such a funny episode because the summary is basically like girl's bash girl movie and then say nice things about boy movie to cash grabs one good one bad yeah that's this week and then next week below we're doing minion

[SPEAKER_01]: I can't wait. [SPEAKER_01]: I'm one of your own something minion themed. [SPEAKER_01]: I can wear for the episode. [SPEAKER_01]: I'll have to look around. [SPEAKER_00]: And I believe you're going to watch Babylon in preparation. [SPEAKER_00]: I am. [SPEAKER_00]: Unless you want to get back at me for not watching Jackass. [SPEAKER_00]: It would be fair and just. [SPEAKER_01]: No, that's okay. [SPEAKER_01]: I'm going to really watch. [SPEAKER_00]: I watched two movies at home this morning for some reason.

[SPEAKER_00]: I might I might re-watch it again because I love this. [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, sometimes just fun. [SPEAKER_01]: Yes, minions next week. [SPEAKER_01]: We'll see you guys there. [SPEAKER_01]: Okay, bye. [SPEAKER_00]: Bye.

[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, thank you for listening to our episode on Supergirl and a little bit of Jack S. I'm so sorry I did not see it. [SPEAKER_00]: You can follow us anywhere you would think you can follow someone. [SPEAKER_00]: Instagram, TikTok, YouTube where you can watch the full video episodes.

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