The End of Oak Street

[SPEAKER_02]: Hello and welcome to Medium Literate, the podcast where two long-time best friends try to sharpen our media literacy skills by discussing a new release in theaters every week. [SPEAKER_02]: I'm Emily Fay, my co-host is Monica Scott, and this week we are talking about the end of Oak Street.

[SPEAKER_02]: Also Monica talks a little bit about an owl documentary that she saw in the V-gidding.

[SPEAKER_02]: Lots of spoilers right off the bat, so if you haven't seen this movie yet and don't want spoilers, maybe wait till after you've seen it. [SPEAKER_02]: If you don't care, have at it. [SPEAKER_02]: Reminder that if you're listening to just the audio, you can also go find us on YouTube at medium-literate. [SPEAKER_02]: And watch. [SPEAKER_02]: the whole podcast with our faces.

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[SPEAKER_02]: medium-literate end of oak street episode, we're here finally we're here um before we get into it at all Monica would like to talk about an owl and as we know birds are the modern descendants of dinosaurs so this is actually thematically quite relevant [SPEAKER_01]: you're so right. [SPEAKER_01]: I wasn't even making that connection. [SPEAKER_01]: I just went to a screening of a movie about an owl. [SPEAKER_01]: And I had some thoughts about it. [SPEAKER_01]: I went to a screening of a movie called Wild Inside.

[SPEAKER_01]: I think it's an HBO documentary's movie, so it'll be on HBO at some point. [SPEAKER_01]: But it's not out yet. [SPEAKER_01]: And it's an independently produced documentary about Flocko the Al, do you know about Flocko the Al? [SPEAKER_01]: Okay, down. [SPEAKER_01]: It's an Al in New York City that escaped the Central Park Zoo. [SPEAKER_02]: How did you escape? [SPEAKER_01]: Well, [SPEAKER_01]: It sort of seems like someone, the movie does not interrogate this and it's like not about this, but it seems like someone cut the cage open, like cut the enclosure open to release him.

[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know why they would, like, and I don't know why it would be that owl specifically because there's other owls in the zoo that they didn't do that for, but for whatever reason, [SPEAKER_01]: So one released flaco. [SPEAKER_01]: So flaco the owl. [SPEAKER_01]: It was a sensation on social media. [SPEAKER_01]: Flaco the owl essentially escapes Pops up in like [SPEAKER_01]: in Manhattan, you're like the Waldorf Astoria, just like on the sidewalk. [SPEAKER_01]: Okay, you know what, maybe I'm vaguely remembering this.

[SPEAKER_01]: Yes. [SPEAKER_01]: And so it's a documentary about sort of like what happened with Flacco? [SPEAKER_01]: Flacco is a breed of owl that is like your region, something, something, massive, massive owl. [SPEAKER_01]: Like looks like a little, [SPEAKER_01]: Like a toddler. [SPEAKER_01]: Whoa, really? [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it's like a like in the photos of him on the sidewalk or like, oh, that's a big guy I didn't know else could be that big [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, and you know, and they're predators.

[SPEAKER_01]: And so essentially, the story is that like Flocco escapes, the central park zoo spends two weeks trying to capture Flocco. [SPEAKER_01]: And the movie kind of goes out of its way to like make the zoo look like fucking idiots.

[SPEAKER_01]: They essentially put like a dead rat on the ground beneath under the tree that Flocco is in. [SPEAKER_01]: Also, they can't find Flocco on their own. [SPEAKER_01]: So there's like a group of people who are birders in Central Park who are specifically alers. [SPEAKER_01]: And they track the owls in the in central part of their out every single night. [SPEAKER_01]: They have their big like lenses and their cameras And it's a really eccentric cast of characters, but they are who finds Flaco and tells the zoo The zoo does these really pathetic attempts to try to catch Flaco like put a dead rat underneath the tree branch He's on and then it's like [SPEAKER_02]: is if there's like not enough rats in New York for him to catch, he's gonna make friends at least.

[SPEAKER_01]: Exactly, but because he was raised in captivity, the fear is that Floko has never hunted before. [SPEAKER_01]: So they're like, yeah, I think he's starving. [SPEAKER_01]: I don't think he'll hunt. [SPEAKER_01]: So they put a dead rat on a string, underneath him, and then like, when it's dark, they kind of like pull it. [SPEAKER_01]: So it looks like it's alive, and he's just like, no, thank you.

[SPEAKER_01]: And then they like put a trap on top of a dead rat or no a top of a live rat in a cage And he like lands on it, but immediately understands it's a trap and flies away and then he starts hunting on its own on his own and everyone's like Oh my god, amazing like they didn't think he was gonna be able to do that because he was raising captivity to know how to [SPEAKER_01]: And the second he does that, the zoo is like, okay, he can live out there and they stop trying to bring him back. [SPEAKER_01]: It becomes this huge...

[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know, this PR situation where everyone is like, he proved he can hunt, he doesn't want to be in the cage, like, don't pick, take him back. [SPEAKER_01]: So the zoo just kind of gives up trying to take care of him at all. [SPEAKER_01]: And so it's just a story about that year in Flocco's life. [SPEAKER_01]: Here is what I want to talk about about the screening I went to is that it was hosted by the Chicago Bird Alliance

[SPEAKER_01]: Bless them. [SPEAKER_01]: Bless their hearts. [SPEAKER_01]: They read a statement at the beginning of like before they started the movie that fucking spoiled the end of the movie. [SPEAKER_02]: Like they assumed everyone was like so familiar with this story because everyone at the screening is like so into birds. [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, and it's like I just went cuz my friend Amy invited us. [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I didn't know anything about I had I like vaguely remembered the photo of Loco Outside of the wall door on the sidewalk [SPEAKER_01]: but that's all I knew about Flacco and they read a statement that like because they're trying to do advocacy around like some stuff that happened to Flacco, but they essentially spoil exactly what Flacco's fate was and we were all just like, [SPEAKER_01]: Why did you guys do this?

[SPEAKER_01]: Now I don't, do I have to watch the movie? [SPEAKER_01]: Now I know exactly what happens to vlogger. [SPEAKER_01]: So that's just some feedback if you're a non-profit running a screening is maybe do your advocacy at the end that is really dumb and I'm like, yes, I can imagine that

[SPEAKER_02]: any sort of like, we're a bird alliance, we're a whatever, it's like, [SPEAKER_02]: Maybe you should like have like a friend who's better at public speaking, like read your thing or do the thing. [SPEAKER_02]: Like it's like you, you, they, they're not people who know how to like host uh, host things. [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, they wanted to generalize, but it wasn't uh, the statement wasn't read with the

[SPEAKER_01]: This is to me, but week like week-chin vibes.

[SPEAKER_01]: And I got a support the mission, but the statement also by the way, like when she stood up and started reading it, I was like, oh my god. [SPEAKER_01]: Because it was like... [SPEAKER_01]: three pages two sides no and she's like holding it staple together and every year did it it it it it it it it it it it it it it it it it it it it it it you can't do this stuff before screening and it's your smart yes and here's why I don't think this is mean is because different people are good at different things and like people

[SPEAKER_02]: passionately in the animal nonprofit sector or whatever, typically are not the same people who are good at showmanship. [SPEAKER_02]: Yes. [SPEAKER_02]: And that's okay. [SPEAKER_02]: That I would say that's more admirable, but then it's like, hey, ask a friend. [SPEAKER_02]: Ask a friend to help you out with this thing. [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, or maybe someone from the theater can point us to the person we should talk to about the bird advocacy at the end. [SPEAKER_01]: It was just a, it was fascinating, a fascinating choice.

[SPEAKER_01]: Also my first experience at the Jane Siskel Theater, which I've always, people are always like, that's like, it's that in the music box of the two theaters that people ask me if I've been to in Chicago. [SPEAKER_01]: I will say, I, I'm not against going to the fiscal again, but it's deeply inconvenient to go to. [SPEAKER_01]: It's like $20 to park anywhere near it. [SPEAKER_01]: It's like absolutely thick of the most downtowniest downtown area, like right across from the Chicago theater.

[SPEAKER_01]: It's too much from, yeah, that's a weird indie movie. [SPEAKER_02]: That's tough. [SPEAKER_02]: It's like, ha ha ha. [SPEAKER_02]: When things are like a huge pain in the ass, that is like truly like main barrier. [SPEAKER_01]: And big time. [SPEAKER_01]: And like, I know there's, there's like a red line stop right outside of it, and I know that that's what everyone is gonna say. [SPEAKER_01]: And I'm just here to say, I'm not taking a train home from a movie at 10 or 11 p.m. [SPEAKER_01]: I'm just simply not.

[SPEAKER_01]: So so what now when now we're at an impasse now. [SPEAKER_01]: I have to pay 20 dollars to park my car I could probably and I mean this movie frankly I can see it on HBO in a few weeks. [SPEAKER_01]: I'm sure a few but it's probably one Yeah, but you know [SPEAKER_01]: It was a really great movie. [SPEAKER_01]: It was really interesting and funny. [SPEAKER_01]: Animal people, I'm out of step with them. [SPEAKER_01]: I think Alex and I have aligned on that that we were kind of like, hey, some of these animal people are like, [SPEAKER_01]: we're like insane question mark she goes part of the documentary is that she goes to this wild bird sanctuary with a like rescue exotic birds and let them live out their days, right?

[SPEAKER_01]: It's like any other animal sanctuary and

[SPEAKER_01]: She this guy runs a exotic bird sanctuary and she hammers this guy so hard with questions And she doesn't do that to anyone else in the show So it's clear that the filmmaker had this Perspective either that or she just needed she knew he could illustrate this hmm question that the audience would have but like [SPEAKER_01]: Two different times in the movie. [SPEAKER_01]: She's like, well, if you look at the size of the enclosure that These birds are being held in like isn't it miserable for them like because they don't get to like Soar around the sky or whatever and he was like [SPEAKER_01]: You know, you are applying human intellectualizing to what actual animal care is and he's like, of course, like that's a nice fantasy, but the reality is like, [SPEAKER_01]: these animals can live for 40 years, like safely in this place, they're coming from dangerous situations, they need to live in these like safer conditions and we make it nice for them and a lot of like research and care has gone into it and like two different times she's like but you know how that looks, right?

[SPEAKER_01]: Like people don't like seeing that and she's like [SPEAKER_01]: Why are you hammering the guy who dedicated his life to birds? [SPEAKER_02]: It's like, what's the alternative? [SPEAKER_01]: Like, you... Because the zoo abandoned this animal, essentially, by letting it just live.

[SPEAKER_02]: And also it's I guess I'm like because I'm like I would say I'm like between I would say I'm more of like an animal person than you But like not That kind obvious. [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, you're not X. I don't think we could we couldn't share some of the animal videos if you were to a stream about yeah, like I'm like, okay I don't know I am

[SPEAKER_02]: I would say I'm at the level where I'm like, do I think it's weird when birds wings are clipped and they're not allowed to do the one thing they mainly do? [SPEAKER_02]: Yes, like maybe I think birds are kind of a weird pet. [SPEAKER_02]: I don't know, but I also understand that a lot of animals are in situations where like, it's a very cruel world out there. [SPEAKER_02]: And yeah. [SPEAKER_02]: Like, okay, at the Atlanta Georgia Aquarium, for example, I absolutely was obsessed with like their sea lions, and they do a little sea lion show, or it's like the trainers just have them do a, it's like minor stuff, it's just cute.

[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, they do a spin, and like they were like, look. [SPEAKER_02]: These sea lions are sea lions that were injured, washed up, whatever, needed to rehabilitate. [SPEAKER_02]: We tried to release them, but they had one big guy who'd been there long time. [SPEAKER_02]: And they were like, we've tried to release this guy two times, two separate occasions we tried to release him. [SPEAKER_02]: And both times he like failed. [SPEAKER_02]: He washed up like fucked up on the shore both times.

[SPEAKER_02]: So like, yeah, we're gonna keep him. [SPEAKER_01]: You know, it's like, you know, there's like people in some ways. [SPEAKER_01]: It's like some of them need a lot of help and that's okay. [SPEAKER_01]: They can live in the sanctuary. [SPEAKER_02]: And this is a thing I think about a lot because I have two indoor cats and a studio apartment. [SPEAKER_02]: And before I ever had a cat, I thought that indoor cats were like depressing. [SPEAKER_02]: And I was like, that's why I'll never have a cat.

[SPEAKER_02]: It's depressing that their whole world is this one apartment. [SPEAKER_02]: And then I had a cat. [SPEAKER_02]: and Bugs was indoor outdoor at first because he came from outdoors and also that was the only way my slash are former shared roommate would let me keep him. [SPEAKER_02]: It was a big fight to keep him and he was like he has to be outside during the day and he Bugs fucking loved being outside. [SPEAKER_02]: He loved it so much but then I couldn't handle it. [SPEAKER_02]: I was so stressed out all the time.

[SPEAKER_02]: that I just had to keep them indoors. [SPEAKER_02]: And then all the stress went away. [SPEAKER_02]: And now I'm like, okay, yeah, it is kind of crazy that this thing you love so much. [SPEAKER_02]: You would every day be like gambling with their life. [SPEAKER_02]: Even though sometimes I feel bad because he did love it. [SPEAKER_02]: And if I asked him, he would probably be like, no, let me take my life in the my own hands. [SPEAKER_02]: So yeah, it's something I think about a lot.

[SPEAKER_02]: I'm not ever going to put that on that side. [SPEAKER_02]: They are indoor only cats. [SPEAKER_02]: That's how it is if I ever get rich and move into a house, they will have a patio, but sure. [SPEAKER_02]: It is a thing I think about a lot, but ultimately, I'm like, no, you live inside. [SPEAKER_02]: Sorry.

[SPEAKER_01]: See, and this is, uh, yeah, this is a difference.

[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, I don't, I don't, I just don't have that with cats. [SPEAKER_01]: I've been around bugs. [SPEAKER_01]: He's like a perfectly happy cat. [SPEAKER_01]: So it's like, I'm not really worried about him, but I do feel a frustration with people who get dogs to chase a specific aesthetic and it's like, yeah, the dog is supposed to like, [SPEAKER_01]: have a herd of sheep it cares for. [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, and that's why it's mentally ill. [SPEAKER_02]: I do agree with that. [SPEAKER_02]: I do think it's I think people get really inappropriate dogs for their lifestyle and especially in a way.

[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, and I think that's everyone in LA should just have like a little lumpy Chihuahua mix essentially. [SPEAKER_02]: because their dogs are so happy to just go on walks and be home. [SPEAKER_02]: They love to be home. [SPEAKER_02]: People have to not be having like cattle dogs in like an apartment in Silver Lake or Huskies. [SPEAKER_02]: The Huskies make me feel insane. [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I knew people who had Huskies in New Orleans, and I was like, hey, I can't think of a more insane climate with this dog and.

[SPEAKER_01]: But you know, we shouldn't belabor this too much longer because people on the animal internet are not normal. [SPEAKER_01]: So yeah, I'm not talking about you. [SPEAKER_01]: If you have a hunting dog in your single room apartment, I'm not talking about you. [SPEAKER_01]: I'm talking about [SPEAKER_02]: And I mean, I am also, I'm the bit, like, my first word was dog. [SPEAKER_02]: I love them so much, but I think that's why I'm like, I want them to be happy. [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, and I just, you know, there is one person in the wild inside that gets interviewed who's a journalist, whose beat is like zoos and animal and human relations, not sure what publication is hiring her to cover this beat, but shout out to her, she was like the coolest

[SPEAKER_01]: There are people who are really into Animals and then there are people who are interested in ecology and that it's like important to understand which one you are and Those relationships are different because people who are into ecology Want to live harmoniously with animals, but not

[SPEAKER_01]: own, like, claim ownership or something. [SPEAKER_01]: I just thought that's like an interesting distinction to think about. [SPEAKER_01]: That's like an interesting thing to pose in the movie. [SPEAKER_01]: I do wish the movie was like more curious about that. [SPEAKER_01]: It wasn't really, but still fun animal documentary. [SPEAKER_02]: You know, I think it's an interesting sort of just everyday version of that, because I follow a lot of like cat rescuers. [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

[SPEAKER_02]: Who that's like their whole life. [SPEAKER_02]: And there is such a balance there between the cats that are just, um, they are just fair all. [SPEAKER_02]: And so the only goal is to trap, neuter, spay, and then like vaccinate release back to their colonies. [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_02]: Versus like. [SPEAKER_02]: Okay, we're gonna get these into homes and it's like they're very much just they're not forcing it either way It's just kind of like Okay, this cat or you know these are kittens whatever Like clearly likes people and would do well in a home versus this cat wants to be out of here immediately and there's one lady in Arizona [SPEAKER_02]: poet square cat shout out.

[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, yeah. [SPEAKER_01]: Oh, yeah. [SPEAKER_02]: Oh, like she has a bunch of cats that she loves so deeply who she's never even touched because she just has like a carport situation where she puts food out for them every day and stuff and watches them from afar and it's like they're so fair. [SPEAKER_02]: They'll never let her touch them but she loves them so much and takes such good care of them but [SPEAKER_02]: left to their own devices and like choose to come there every day because they know they're taking care of.

[SPEAKER_01]: I think that's cool. [SPEAKER_01]: I think it's cool when people have a relationship with an animal that is like, [SPEAKER_01]: somehow kind of like mutual, not as pectiful. [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, and like not not reciprocal affection-wise necessary. [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_01]: Well, thanks for letting me talk about the album of you for 20 minutes.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, um, oh, the other thing I was just going to flag, if you haven't seen this movie yet, we don't really have any plans to cover it on the show, but I did see teenage sex and death that can't my asthma and wow, what a good one. [SPEAKER_01]: I don't know that we are, I mean, you know, once you'll see it, you'll see what I mean. [SPEAKER_01]: I'm not sure that we're the right people to have a [SPEAKER_01]: conversation about it necessarily, I think there are people more aligned with the identities in that the movie is kind of like wrestling with, but really, really fun time.

[SPEAKER_01]: So I'm just, this is me generally advocating that people go out and see that movie. [SPEAKER_02]: I'll probably see it this weekend. [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, but it's cad this August is like so crazy. [SPEAKER_01]: Like after we do Tony we are essentially going to do two movies. [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it was like there's just too many. [SPEAKER_01]: Like to chew. [SPEAKER_01]: It's nuts. [SPEAKER_01]: So thank you to the studios for a crazy August. [SPEAKER_01]: Usually it's kind of quiet this time of year.

[SPEAKER_01]: And now onto the main event, the end of Oak Street. [SPEAKER_02]: Did you like it? [SPEAKER_02]: Yes, yeah, me too. [SPEAKER_01]: I thought it was a fucking ball last.

[SPEAKER_01]: It is so fun. [SPEAKER_02]: It is like truly just like a big fun. [SPEAKER_02]: family friendly like summer blockbuster like we haven't had in a long time. [SPEAKER_01]: We, when we saw it, first of all, at this theater I always go to. [SPEAKER_01]: There's usually only like two other people in the theater. [SPEAKER_01]: This we could barely get seeds, too. [SPEAKER_01]: No, I am. [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, same. [SPEAKER_01]: We realized when we were sitting, that we were separating a family.

[SPEAKER_01]: We did not forget to move. [SPEAKER_01]: We just separated them. [SPEAKER_01]: It was like two older boys and then a bunch of little boys so I don't know what their boys were probably thrilled to be separated from the little boys But there was a moment where like so Alex was next to the little boys. [SPEAKER_01]: I was next to the older boys older boys check their phone every five fucking minutes. [SPEAKER_01]: I was literally at one point sitting with my hand like this towards them [SPEAKER_01]: So that I could just block the light from the phone, and I wanted them to see it, but I I'm just not gonna get into an argument with a 15-year-old boy But one of the little boys there was like a part in the movie where someone gets their head bit enough and the little boy turned to Alex and what he bit her head off and Alex just didn't react because he didn't want to [SPEAKER_01]: Start something where this little boy's doing that, but it was like, okay.

[SPEAKER_02]: Yes, that's cute Sometimes sometimes a family can just be a bunch of boys of different ages Yeah, if I thought these boys live in one house Bless that mom. [SPEAKER_01]: I would send them all to the movies too [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I mean, she was definitely trying for a daughter and that's why there are so many boys and they just kept me teaching like a lot. [SPEAKER_02]: This time, we've got to get one. [SPEAKER_02]: Oh, boy. [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I saw it at the Grove at the AMC on Friday and the AMC was nuts.

[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, one because of this movie, like every, this movie had a lot of screenings. [SPEAKER_02]: It was on like, [SPEAKER_02]: three or four different screens and um they were all like So full I got like the last seat. [SPEAKER_02]: It had been full and then like one seat opened up and I got it, you know? [SPEAKER_02]: And uh and [SPEAKER_02]: It was also really busy because I guess pop patrol was out. [SPEAKER_02]: And so there were also a lot of babies in the theater.

[SPEAKER_02]: And I something that was very cute as I saw, you know, how like they'll have little piles of stuff that give people for certain movies when you like scan your ticket. [SPEAKER_02]: They had a little, a little certificate thing that for the was pop patrol that was like my first movie and then all like you could fill in your name and date. [SPEAKER_01]: That's very sweet. [SPEAKER_01]: That's a cute idea. [SPEAKER_02]: No, so I think there were like a lot of little babies. [SPEAKER_02]: One piece of merch was really funny, is the popcorn bowl, I guess?

[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, and it's a dog bowl? [SPEAKER_02]: The dog bowl, and I'm like, yes, so everyone can eat popcorn like me!

[SPEAKER_02]: Finally, one that really makes sense for you, and then there was also a Q&A screening at the same time as my movie with Kristen Stewart and Alia Shaka for the wrong girls. [SPEAKER_02]: So the theater was just like, everyone's seeing end of Oak Street, a bunch of babies, and then like a bunch of lesbians. [SPEAKER_01]: And it was really crowded, and truly the town square. [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, the, yeah, so, and of Oak Street, so fucking fun, incredibly fun. [SPEAKER_02]: I didn't see it follows.

[SPEAKER_02]: Did you? [SPEAKER_02]: I'm sure you did. [SPEAKER_02]: Yes, yeah, when I first saw it follows in the theater, [SPEAKER_02]: it really like got me in terms of like sticking with me scarewise because that was during the same era of me as the visit where yes certain things would really stick with me and like kind of ruin my life for a few days because I was so scared all the time it follows really did that for me you know I remember like talking to some people who were like no it's like good it's interesting but it's not like scary and there seemed to be a real mirror like [SPEAKER_02]: We're so there were people like me and then some people who were like, no, and I think it's just one of those things where it's like If it hit on some weird specific fear button in your head, it really got to you And if you don't have that specific button that didn't get to you I also re-watched under the silver lake last night I really liked under the silver lake when I saw it.

[SPEAKER_01]: It's weird. [SPEAKER_02]: It's so weird. [SPEAKER_02]: It's that's One thing about [SPEAKER_02]: This guy doesn't have that many movies. [SPEAKER_02]: But yeah, something I find so interesting about him is that they're all such different genres. [SPEAKER_02]: And it seems that he has this like, savant-like ability to really nail any genre. [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, and it's that is like where it's like it follows which by the way has like that spawned Essentially a new genre of horror like there have been so many movies post it follows that are just It follows but whatever the vitticus was it follows smile is essentially it follows like [SPEAKER_02]: everything now is it follows that so that was interesting influential movie and then yeah under the silver lake is just kind of like a weird like neon wire and it's so good at that and then this is like 80 style like big summer blockbuster kind of wholesome and he just like nails every genre it's so interesting to me.

[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, and this one, this one was so impressive because I just feel like, you get a couple of these elements wrong and this is like the corneous dumbest thing I've ever seen. [SPEAKER_01]: I do think if you don't have Anne the Hathaway, I don't know that it works at all. [SPEAKER_01]: True, yeah, like she, and I feel almost maybe kind of insane saying this, [SPEAKER_01]: but she is giving a performance unlike anything I've ever seen her do before and I was like oh okay I really find this incredible because there were moments where she almost gave uh

[SPEAKER_01]: facially like a Shelley Duval in the shining kind of feel. [SPEAKER_01]: But then also like I think it's really impressive that while also running she was able to express like complete and total fear and also absolute [SPEAKER_01]: protective resolve and like I think those are hard to do at the same time and um I just I don't know I found her really really impressive in this movie like in a way I mean I always think she's good and I like her but I was like damn [SPEAKER_02]: She's incredible in this.

[SPEAKER_02]: No, I mean, I guess I was like, there were little things she was doing where I was like classic and half the way, but like in a good way. [SPEAKER_02]: But I think that she is like the secret sauce that makes so many projects work. [SPEAKER_02]: we're definitely because it's not like anyone else's acting is so incredible of this it's she is she is like the heart and like she is the the main focal point of this movie that everything else like works around. [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, big time and I heard her say that she reached out to this director after it follows and was like, hello, me next please.

[SPEAKER_02]: Wow, that was so long ago. [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, and he was like, I have something in mind and I'm writing it and developing it. [SPEAKER_01]: So I'll get back to you and it was like eight years later. [SPEAKER_01]: He was like,

[SPEAKER_02]: takes his time with stuff, which is maybe why it's so good because I was looking at his IMDB. [SPEAKER_02]: And yeah, his last moment we was under the silver, like, that was 2018. [SPEAKER_01]: That's crazy. [SPEAKER_01]: Like, that's a long time. [SPEAKER_02]: That was a different world. [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_02]: So I think that's the cool of it. [SPEAKER_02]: Like, it's like, I'm not going to put out like that much, but everything I do put out is going to be like pretty much perfect.

[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

[SPEAKER_02]: I remember there were rumors going around that I still wasn't sure that these weren't true until watching it. [SPEAKER_02]: A bunch of people thought that this was secretly a Cloverfield universe movie. [SPEAKER_02]: Do you hear those rumors? [SPEAKER_02]: And I'm so glad it wasn't. [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I mean, listen, I love Cloverfield. [SPEAKER_01]: And I think I like one of the other Cloverfield movies, but not all of them. [SPEAKER_02]: Ten lane or something. [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, what's the one where they're trapped with John Goodman?

[SPEAKER_02]: And that's the 10 Clover Field Lane, maybe? [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, but yeah, that one is good. [SPEAKER_01]: I think Clover Field also just in general is like a cool, I think it's cool. [SPEAKER_01]: I think it's cool that that JJ Abrams sort of like, [SPEAKER_01]: you know, has produced this thing that like spun out essentially just like a universe that can be played with and I like when stuff like like that is the most interesting stuff that fandom can produce to me is like okay we're doing this but it's this kind of thing so I think that's cool but I am glad this is like yeah it would have been fine if it was a Cloverfield movie but I like it more that it was [SPEAKER_01]: a more original swing and that it had nothing to do with any intellectual property others.

[SPEAKER_02]: It's just its own standalone thing. [SPEAKER_02]: I feel like I also am I the only one who from the trailers didn't realize that the the present in it was the eighties. [SPEAKER_01]: No, I think that's a really common. [SPEAKER_01]: I also did it because I think that's a really common thing that, like, I just thought it was going to be now. [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, but I mean, I look. [SPEAKER_02]: I love that because I loved how it made the whole thing, like, I don't know, I loved the aesthetics of the whole thing, but I had no idea.

[SPEAKER_01]: Optimism of the characters, I think, that the 80s gave the characters a different tone than they would have now. [SPEAKER_01]: I will say on the optimism friend, my only complaint about this movie is we got to get you and McGregor out of there. [SPEAKER_01]: It was not cat. [SPEAKER_01]: He was miscast in my opinion and I really like him a lot. [SPEAKER_01]: I find him completely charming and really fun to watch. [SPEAKER_02]: I love him too and I think he's so hot but he is not just like [SPEAKER_02]: Midwestern American dad.

[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, well, you know what's interesting is I liked him in his season of Fargo. [SPEAKER_01]: Oh, yeah, I liked that. [SPEAKER_01]: He plays his own twin brother, but this was, he wasn't doing a Minnesota accent. [SPEAKER_01]: He was doing that classic, like, foreign person doesn't American accent where they're just from nowhere. [SPEAKER_01]: And I, he also was like, I know Anne Hathaway is like 40 something in her 40s, but she doesn't look at it. [SPEAKER_01]: She doesn't look at it, and he's like 55 years old.

[SPEAKER_01]: It just was like, I'm sorry, he's too old. [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, this role. [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_01]: And I don't think it works. [SPEAKER_01]: I do have, [SPEAKER_01]: I have two pitches for who I think would have worked super well because the other issue, to me, it with his character, is that that is a character that has like a little bit of an edge and a darkness paired with his optimism. [SPEAKER_01]: And you don't feel it. [SPEAKER_01]: He's doing this like Golly Golly Gweather's type of like performance that I was like completely off put by

[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, because it also made me not actually care about their relationship, their mirror. [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it's just kind of like the little guy seems like an idiot. [SPEAKER_01]: I was kind of like, yeah, girl, leave him, leave his ass. [SPEAKER_01]: But um, okay, my two pitches for who would be a more age appropriate and would play 80s guy, darkness, better. [SPEAKER_01]: Jason Ritter. [SPEAKER_01]: Okay, yeah. [SPEAKER_01]: I feel very strongly would be perfect. [SPEAKER_01]: And then my second is Bill Haterer.

[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, that's a interesting one. [SPEAKER_01]: I feel like he can do the darkness and he can also kind of do like pathetic a little bit. [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah? [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_01]: These are, those are my pitches. [SPEAKER_01]: Those are my pitches for who to recast. [SPEAKER_01]: If we do this again. [SPEAKER_02]: Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha [SPEAKER_01]: Okay, I could see it for sure, especially the time period.

[SPEAKER_02]: I think he could play that time period really believeably and I think he looks like because I feel like the whole thing is like they look like this like a beautiful You know Sure perfect family and I feel like he Could do that. [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, he could do that

[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it was the only thing I found completely distracting every time he was on screen. [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it was talking. [SPEAKER_01]: I was just like, what is this? [SPEAKER_01]: And did this studio maybe not think and Hathaway it could be the only star in the movie? [SPEAKER_01]: I feel like that might be all it is. [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I mean, I guess it's always like two stars is better than, but that's like they could have cast another star as the, it's not like you remember that verse, like the only, it's not like he's the most famous man in the whole world.

[SPEAKER_01]: You know, I don't think like you and McGregor maybe could have worked if we let him have his accent like I don't Yeah, question that that much. [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it's a strange choice to be like [SPEAKER_01]: No Irish people. [SPEAKER_01]: Please. [SPEAKER_02]: They really need to let people just have their accents more. [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_02]: Because if they can't do an American accent, Yeah. [SPEAKER_02]: You know, like that was in back rooms. [SPEAKER_02]: That was very, she's a great actress, but it was very distracting.

[SPEAKER_02]: It's like, you know, it just kept fully coming out. [SPEAKER_02]: And it's like, just have it be that like her and her mom moved. [SPEAKER_02]: Whatever.

[SPEAKER_02]: I also, this movie, I, okay, so I,

[SPEAKER_02]: give a pretty good review to all of the Jurassic World movies. [SPEAKER_02]: I see every Jurassic World movie in theaters, and I like them all, even the ones everyone says are really bad. [SPEAKER_02]: And ultimately, that's because it's fun to go see dinosaurs. [SPEAKER_02]: Dinosaur's are cool and fun to watch, so this movie I thought did dinosaurs in a very fun way. [SPEAKER_02]: I loved the dinosaurs. [SPEAKER_01]: The dinosaurs, I thought, were cool. [SPEAKER_02]: I don't usually see where they actually give them like feathers or hair Yeah, that would show movies always have them slimy Yeah, they just always have like the classic Scalies so very brave to do the Possibly accurate feathers.

[SPEAKER_02]: I mean we don't know because also the feathers are like it makes them look really ugly [SPEAKER_02]: Like, it's a, yes, it's a, so it's like, very, you know, very ugly dinosaurs in this, which was cool. [SPEAKER_01]: Um, I kind of like the turtles, the turtles were fine. [SPEAKER_02]: I loved the turtles. [SPEAKER_02]: I loved, I was gonna mention the big, the big group of turtles, the big turtle party. [SPEAKER_02]: Um, I loved the turtle party. [SPEAKER_02]: I loved that giant disgusting snake thing so much.

[SPEAKER_02]: I was so happy when it came back. [SPEAKER_01]: Oh, and the sequence was so... That was great. [SPEAKER_01]: Incredible, so stressful and upsetting. [SPEAKER_02]: And it's just, it looked so nasty. [SPEAKER_02]: Like, it's just big body, just like, filling the hall. [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_02]: And then when it opens, it's mouth to unhath away. [SPEAKER_02]: I know, I like, I loved that thing. [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I thought that was, I thought that was really cool. [SPEAKER_01]: That dinosaur is generally looked okay.

[SPEAKER_01]: I feel like in the beginning, I was like,

[SPEAKER_01]: bumping on how they looked for some reason. [SPEAKER_01]: Not that I'm, I just remembered something. [SPEAKER_01]: I was looking on Reddit to see if anyone was saying the same thing about you and McGregor. [SPEAKER_01]: Sometimes I just like to corroborate my hands and so I was poking around and I kept seeing posts from our slash dinosaurs. [SPEAKER_01]: And brother, they have some stuff to say about this movie. [SPEAKER_01]: Uh-oh. [SPEAKER_02]: Say it on Saddest Vite. [SPEAKER_01]: What do they want?

[SPEAKER_01]: We didn't just see what I saw was the scene where, and I know we already gave a spoiler warning, but spoiler warning right before you and McGregor get eaten. [SPEAKER_01]: Hmm, where he hits a dinosaur in the jaw and that knocks it out and I also was like [SPEAKER_01]: what? [SPEAKER_01]: Because he didn't hit it where it's brain would be. [SPEAKER_01]: Right. [SPEAKER_01]: He just hit it in the jaw and it like knocked it out for like five seconds. [SPEAKER_01]: I've seen 2,000 word screens on the R slash dinosaurs about how they this person walked out when that happened.

[SPEAKER_01]: They were so outraged. [SPEAKER_01]: That is so funny. [SPEAKER_01]: And we're like several other

[SPEAKER_02]: There's no way it was for the same reason. [SPEAKER_01]: You know that, right? [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, kidding, more popcorn. [SPEAKER_02]: Oh, my God, wait, I really like the idea that he tried to talk to those people as they, like, after they walked out. [SPEAKER_02]: He was like, that was so, and they were just like, oh, we just, we have little kids. [SPEAKER_02]: We didn't know that like someone was gonna get eaten on the screen and he's just like, are you also so mad about how unrealistic it was that you would knock that dinosaur out?

[SPEAKER_01]: They're like, oh, oh, oh, oh, nice to meet you, bye. [SPEAKER_01]: Wow, cool, I have to go. [SPEAKER_01]: Okay, I would like to counter. [SPEAKER_02]: Maybe the dinosaur was just surprised.

[SPEAKER_02]: You made him go down for a minute and then he recovered himself. [SPEAKER_02]: Maybe he was just like, whoa, whoa. [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, maybe he was sensitive and he's just never seen like a hammer before.

[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I mean, and he went, oh, didn't know that could happen. [SPEAKER_02]: Okay, okay, shake it off, shake it off, buddy. [SPEAKER_01]: Pray doesn't usually do that kind of thing. [SPEAKER_01]: So I don't know why they're doing this. [SPEAKER_01]: You know, I think that I think that it's just a stupid moment and they just needed a moment where it goes down and no one thought too hard about it. [SPEAKER_01]: At least, and no one expected us to think too hard about it. [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, but yeah, honestly, I wasn't thinking too hard about it.

[SPEAKER_01]: I did, I noticed Alex go, like, and also got anything like that. [SPEAKER_01]: And then he walked out. [SPEAKER_02]: I think God unread it. [SPEAKER_02]: I absolutely loved that they had him get eaten, though. [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I mean, it's funny that I, the movie had already done enough for like really violent stuff that I was like, oh, this is like, I guess I thought there have been other family-ish movies where there's some terror like this and I feel I, this felt more violent than the ones I had seen before and I was like, but even so, I for some reason just didn't think that that was on the table.

[SPEAKER_02]: The great thing about this movie was that it was like, I feel like now, most of the time if something is like a family, bulk blockbuster, family movie, it means it's a kids movie that just parents won't hate. [SPEAKER_02]: This, I think, is truly a family movie and that like, it's not a kids movie. [SPEAKER_02]: It just is for everyone. [SPEAKER_02]: And so like, they're not,

[SPEAKER_02]: Which is how, I mean, this movie really does feel like an 80s movie. [SPEAKER_01]: Like, yeah, yeah, and it's interesting. [SPEAKER_01]: We haven't even touched on any of that stuff that it is essentially like a Spielberg Amblin movie. [SPEAKER_02]: But like a really good one, like that would be like a classic. [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I, when we were walking out of the movie, I was like, I feel like I just saw like a really good cover band. [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, which is, yeah, so funny in the same year that like, yeah, there was a Spielberg movie that was like such a dud.

[SPEAKER_02]: And then this is this other guy just doing like kind of peak Spielberg, but yeah, I feel like that's a thing about like, [SPEAKER_02]: And I'm not, I'm really, really not the biggest 80s movies person. [SPEAKER_02]: I think I liked that this was an 80s movie, done, done, modern. [SPEAKER_02]: That's one, you know. [SPEAKER_02]: But I, yeah, just in that it's not, it's for literally everyone. [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, yeah. [SPEAKER_01]: And like, I think a lot of the filmmaking craft of it was like, [SPEAKER_01]: pretty cool, pretty impressive, like some of the, I think so listen, I didn't go to film school.

[SPEAKER_01]: So, you know, the email me if I'm wrong, but he did this thing a few times. [SPEAKER_01]: I think it's called Split Diopter Lens where it's like the two halves of the screen can be in focus at different depths. [SPEAKER_01]: And when he was doing those things with the conversation between family members, but one was closer, I just thought that, I don't, I was very artful, it was very like cool, the way that was deployed in the movie. [SPEAKER_02]: Everyone has been very obsessed suddenly.

[SPEAKER_02]: I think a bunch of people just learned what split die off. [SPEAKER_02]: is myself included, because everyone online has been obsessed with like counting split after shots, like, the clothe, the cronin, the mummy specifically is when I started seeing it a few months ago, where everyone was just like, there's like a thousand split after shots in, uh, Lee cronin's the mummy, and then they were like, oh, and like toy story five, they're like, [SPEAKER_02]: through animation they're making so it's like suddenly I can't it just can't just happen in an animation You're a judge.

[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, so everyone is just like a suddenly obsessed with talking about like split dial That's really funny. [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I must have heard something like something some one of those or something coming up on like another podcast or something but I [SPEAKER_01]: I found, you know, those usually don't really stick with me, but I think because those shots, you know, they almost kind of look like those like 80s portraits, right? [SPEAKER_01]: Someone's like big, and then someone's small, and it just, it like, it is a, was a filmmaking choice that sort of like, reinforced the 80s feelings.

[SPEAKER_01]: I also appreciated that the kids in the

[SPEAKER_01]: The things they said, and their character motivations, like, it all felt quite authentic to what I experienced kids to be like. [SPEAKER_01]: And I, it's like, for some reason, that doesn't always make it to screen when we're like depicting families. [SPEAKER_01]: And even the way the family talk to each other, I felt very natural, the way, you know, kids could be making like, crass jokes in front of their parents to kind of like feel the edges of the rest of the loud. [SPEAKER_02]: I think part of the kids are never kids anymore in stuff is because I literally think that is part of the issue with like, [SPEAKER_02]: crunching numbers and always trying to appeal like with every aspect to certain demographics is like they want teenagers to like see the teenagers as like cool and like characters.

[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_02]: Like as opposed to just like, yeah, this is just a family unit and the teenagers is like a normal, you know, they're all just whatever. [SPEAKER_01]: Like, yeah, yeah, really, it really, really all kind of lent itself

[SPEAKER_01]: And I also, I'm like straight up and 80s hate her. [SPEAKER_01]: I don't like stuff like 80s. [SPEAKER_01]: That's why I won't watch Stranger Things.

[SPEAKER_01]: And I don't like, it's just like not something I have nostalgia for. [SPEAKER_01]: And so the fact that there's even one meover, I think, is like interesting. [SPEAKER_02]: I feel like this was doing sort of like more grounded 80s than like fun house like nostalgia-bait 80s. [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, because the nostalgia stuff, you know, it feels and I don't mean this in the AI sense. [SPEAKER_01]: I just mean it in the Goopie sense, like, Slop. [SPEAKER_01]: It's just like, here's everything about no that you associate with the 80s all at once and it's like where it just wants you to record [SPEAKER_02]: No, this one was like, honestly, it was quite subtle, like, it took me a minute to be like, okay, when is this, it was subtle, and it was sort of like, in their outfits, and in their, [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, once I started to see you and McGregor's in-same on the shorts, I was like, wait, something's up.

[SPEAKER_02]: And especially if being like early 80s, it's like, yeah, it would, that would be a little more 70s still. [SPEAKER_02]: Like, it wouldn't be like bright neon and shit. [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_02]: Um, definitely. [SPEAKER_02]: I really liked it. [SPEAKER_02]: I liked all of Anne Hathaway's little, um, short, swinging dress things. [SPEAKER_02]: I thought it was like, also, the, it is a sci-fi premise, but I liked the exact level of sci-fi it did, where it didn't try to explain too much, but it also doesn't totally ignore the implications, it's just like we're just not getting into, because I'm not a sci-fi person, but [SPEAKER_02]: It's still like, it nods at the implications, while still being like, okay, but this isn't about that we're not getting into that big spoiler.

[SPEAKER_02]: I loved that last shot where there's two genets. [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, like, where it's full, like, it is like, no, no, no, that is probably a question you had. [SPEAKER_02]: Is, oh, if there, now there's two of them all, and that addresses that, and is like, yes, that is what happened, and that is a thing, [SPEAKER_02]: it's addressing it without having to like go into it because if you go into it there's no answer it's very complicated and goes on forever you know but just a quick little shot of like two genetics you're like oh damn okay yeah [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it's funny that it just kind of like gestures loosely at like, uh, yeah, and the resolution was a little messy.

[SPEAKER_01]: Don't worry about it. [SPEAKER_01]: I think it's very funny that very funny and kind of dark, extremely dark, that the ending is that the ending is essentially that they doom.

[SPEAKER_01]: them to death. [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_01]: And just get the husband out. [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_02]: No, it's like, it's like, for him, it's like, okay, he's, he's leaving. [SPEAKER_02]: He has to be okay with the fact that he left his family to die, to be with his other family. [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, it's very, that's the thing. [SPEAKER_02]: It's like very morally complicated. [SPEAKER_02]: And they're just like, no, no, we're not getting into that. [SPEAKER_02]: It's a happy ending, but [SPEAKER_02]: Here, there are two genets, like, exactly what your thing thing happened, did happen.

[SPEAKER_01]: So funny. [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it's that part is really, really funny. [SPEAKER_02]: I also thought that just like all of the shots of the sort of like prehistoric, like landscape, like, infringing onto the edges of the town when they're like trying to drive, looked very beautiful. [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, it looked really cool. [SPEAKER_01]: I liked the, uh, the, uh, the, uh, sorry. [SPEAKER_01]: My mouth just broke. [SPEAKER_01]: Um, I liked the effects. [SPEAKER_01]: Quite quite a lot.

[SPEAKER_01]: I thought I thought that, um, I think it's ILM that did the effects, which is like, industrial light and magic is like what, you know, it was invented after Star Wars. [SPEAKER_01]: I believe, like,

[SPEAKER_01]: It's good. [SPEAKER_01]: It's good. [SPEAKER_01]: It's good. [SPEAKER_02]: It's good. [SPEAKER_01]: I think I'm really slowly getting dumber this episode. [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, it is funny because like leading into talking about this today, I was a little like, I don't... [SPEAKER_01]: I found myself really searching my soul for what

[SPEAKER_01]: in terms of like, I don't know, in terms of trying to like do any sort of critical analysis of what I thought of this movie because it is just so like, [SPEAKER_01]: fun. [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, it is, it's a very like, yay, movie. [SPEAKER_01]: Are you going? [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I think that the only thing I kind of landed on that is like a little bit, and I appreciate that this is there if you want it, but that you don't. [SPEAKER_01]: It's just like not necessary to enjoy the movie.

[SPEAKER_01]: But I think, so like the interviews I listened to with the director, he was saying that one day he was on a walk in his neighborhood and he looked down an alley and he said, Oh, wouldn't it be crazy if a dinosaur was down there? [SPEAKER_01]: And it was that image in his head that was like, that's it. [SPEAKER_01]: That's like how it originated. [SPEAKER_01]: And then I think that what this does so different from every other dinosaur movie I see is that [SPEAKER_01]: this brought them into our world and not the other way around.

[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_01]: And specifically the suburbs, right, which is like something incredibly specific. [SPEAKER_01]: And so it's like, there's something there if you are interested in it, like,

[SPEAKER_01]: comfort and safety in your home and in your in the comfort and safety you feel in the suburbs and you know yada yada that can go away you can't go home again like yeah because the change just happened rapidly like I kind of like but that's there if you want to chew on it but yeah I didn't I didn't really that much like I kind of had to push myself to get there [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I mean, that's I feel like that's a thing that Anne Hathaway's character again Like she Her character was all the emotional beats because like yeah, there's a scene where she's like That's gone Yeah, it's gone And I kind of like in a way this movie does

[SPEAKER_02]: have it's cake and eat it too, and that it does have like

[SPEAKER_02]: one of them, one of the main family members does get eaten and yeah it's I don't know they're this event does happen regardless and all that stuff but then in the end it's like it's all good now it's a happy ending but you do at least get all that stuff

[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know, it, it flirted with the darkness in a way, but you didn't, but then because it's like a big, for everyone blockbuster, like walking out of the theater some girls behind me, one of them was like, it was so wholesome, and it's like it is, it is, but at least,

[SPEAKER_02]: What could be a much darker version of this? [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, and then that is there if you want to take that away. [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, and like I did like how bloody it was. [SPEAKER_02]: Like I did like how brutal the dinosaur attacks were. [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, really, they were really scary. [SPEAKER_01]: Um, I feel like more scary than in like Jurassic Park or something. [SPEAKER_01]: Like yeah, totally.

[SPEAKER_02]: this. [SPEAKER_02]: I think just because this one showed.

[SPEAKER_02]: So many people just getting absolutely fucking demolished and also it's like There yeah, it's like you're like, okay, well, guess you could just hold up in your house But then it shows like, okay, yeah, if there is a creature that's as big as your house But it has muscles and your house doesn't have muscles and it's it's dinosaur versus house Like yeah, the dinosaur is gonna get your ass

[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, there's no house versus dinosaur. [SPEAKER_01]: I'll tell you who wins. [SPEAKER_01]: The dinosaurs were so vicious in this. [SPEAKER_01]: And I will, as the world's foremost, a puppet obsessive, I will say that I wish sometimes they were practical. [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, yeah, I mean, like some of the little or ones totally could have been like yeah I did I feel I do think it's funny that in any any Dinosaur movie ever made. [SPEAKER_02]: It's like sorry. [SPEAKER_02]: There's gonna be cute little baby raptors There's gonna be cute little baby raptors [SPEAKER_01]: I really had this moment when I saw the, like, couple of baby raptors running by, I was like, kill those.

[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, get those out of the way. [SPEAKER_01]: At least those are just going to grow up and eat you know. [SPEAKER_02]: It's, I think there's something that was so great about this movie, too, is it's like, so in the, in the Jurassic world movies and my beloved Jurassic world movies, there, there is a point in them where the dinosaurs break. [SPEAKER_02]: Full, it's after they break initial containment, then they, there is a period where they're in the real world where they have, like all gotten loose, and it's just like, okay, they're just in the world.

[SPEAKER_02]: They kind of, the franchise kind of told the glazes over that. [SPEAKER_02]: Where it's like there is one movie where they're like, oh, what do we do? [SPEAKER_02]: But it's always from the perspective of like, what do we do? [SPEAKER_02]: And then the next movie is just Years and years after that happened where it's like there's basically no dinosaurs anymore. [SPEAKER_02]: They figured out the issue whatever [SPEAKER_02]: And so it's like, even they had the opportunity to do like a movie like this where it's just like, okay, how does like a regular suburb deal with a bunch of dinosaurs suddenly being unleashed?

[SPEAKER_02]: And they didn't do that. [SPEAKER_02]: And so yeah, that this, this is something we haven't seen before and very smart way of making it so that like, yeah, there's no escape because it's like, yeah, [SPEAKER_02]: It's like the dinosaurs are in their world, but on a larger scale, they're in their world. [SPEAKER_01]: And that is so confusing. [SPEAKER_01]: I don't spend too much time on that, everyone. [SPEAKER_02]: I thought the word was a good, just sort of like easy explanation. [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

[SPEAKER_01]: Find the orb jump in the orb. [SPEAKER_01]: Don't worry about that. [SPEAKER_02]: I knew that the kid was going to fall. [SPEAKER_02]: That the orb was going to disappear and he was going to fall. [SPEAKER_02]: I just wasn't sure if he was going to die or not. [SPEAKER_02]: Because after that, you have better thing. [SPEAKER_02]: It was like anything could happen. [SPEAKER_02]: Although, if you have a family, the person you can kill with the least, like, ease of course the dad. [SPEAKER_02]: It's like, the kids are like, the mom is like, the dad, it's like, [SPEAKER_02]: You family don't have dads.

[SPEAKER_01]: Get him out of here. [SPEAKER_01]: Sorry to dad's everywhere. [SPEAKER_01]: You don't need him.

[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, Emily and I are proof of that.

[SPEAKER_02]: And we're fine. [SPEAKER_02]: We have a podcast. [SPEAKER_01]: We're fine. [SPEAKER_01]: We're normal. [SPEAKER_01]: Not mentally ill. No. [SPEAKER_01]: Not at all. [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, no. [SPEAKER_01]: I just, I really enjoyed it. [SPEAKER_01]: I really loved the pace. [SPEAKER_02]: One hour, 40 minutes, gorgeous.

[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it just went. [SPEAKER_01]: It just went. [SPEAKER_02]: There was never a period where I was like, oh, okay, let's do it. [SPEAKER_02]: You know, it's like, yeah.

[SPEAKER_02]: loved it. [SPEAKER_02]: And I, but I, but I, it was like, perfect thing. [SPEAKER_02]: But I really got my fill of dinosaurs.

[SPEAKER_01]: Satisfied with my dinosaur quantity. [SPEAKER_01]: I, you know, it's funny leading up to it. [SPEAKER_01]: I feel like I talked to a lot of people who were like, I don't know. [SPEAKER_01]: JJ Abrams. [SPEAKER_01]: He's harmed me in the past. [SPEAKER_01]: And I, I was trying to think do, I have that relationship to JJ Abrams. [SPEAKER_01]: And I don't [SPEAKER_01]: What is it about JJ Abrams that makes people so intense? [SPEAKER_02]: Is it the Star Wars that he did and people who really care about Star Wars?

[SPEAKER_02]: And they don't like what he did to Star Wars? [SPEAKER_02]: I just kind of don't have any feelings either way on JJ Abrams I got. [SPEAKER_01]: I think it's fine and he made lost, right? [SPEAKER_01]: I think it was like a demon, a demon, a demon, a demon, a demon. [SPEAKER_01]: I never watched, so maybe that's why I don't. [SPEAKER_02]: But it's also like he produced, but it's like how much should he really have to do with this, you know? [SPEAKER_02]: Like, who knows? [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it's like, I kind of think he's, I think it's okay to have like a 50-50 hit rate if you're a producer.

[SPEAKER_01]: You know what I mean? [SPEAKER_01]: Like, I don't know, man. [SPEAKER_01]: You're just throwing stuff at the wall trying to, it just needs to make its money back so you can keep going, although if you're JJ Abrams, I don't, that's probably not the case. [SPEAKER_01]: It doesn't matter, stuff makes money. [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_01]: But, um, but I do think it's kind of cool

[SPEAKER_01]: lends his name and credibility when it's helpful for someone like this filmmaker, right, who like

[SPEAKER_01]: has made movies and I think someone would have given him the money to make a movie but I bet I don't know that everyone's giving him the budget that this ended up having to make the dinosaur movie. [SPEAKER_02]: Especially and it's there really are only two stars in it and I mean it's it's honestly funny it's obviously so different but it's like last week we watched like a high concept kooky premise movie [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_02]: This is also a high-concept like cookie-premise movie, and I felt that this just handled it so much better.

[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I mean, it was also more exciting. [SPEAKER_01]: It is, yeah, it's just a great summer movie, I think. [SPEAKER_01]: I hope everyone checks it out. [SPEAKER_01]: I have no sense of how well it's doing or not. [SPEAKER_01]: Outside of, you know, anecdotal, what I saw at the theater, which is, it was busier than usual. [SPEAKER_01]: But it's just it is so much fun like I was really enjoying every second of it. [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, yeah, and I think my last note is damn, and Hathaway is ripped, oh my god, yeah.

[SPEAKER_01]: When she was in that little tank top and she had all these like muscles up, like teeny tiny chest muscles, I was like, that is really, that is a Pilates lady, if ever I was seeing one. [SPEAKER_01]: And she's just so beautiful. [SPEAKER_01]: Like, she's just like, I know, insanely beautiful. [SPEAKER_01]: And it's very funny that they kind of, I feel trying to like dim her down a little bit, have her look like a normal mom. [SPEAKER_01]: And it's just not possible. [SPEAKER_01]: She's like so full.

[SPEAKER_01]: She sort of has like the face that like painters would paint for an angel. [SPEAKER_01]: Okay, are any more notes on on this movie? [SPEAKER_01]: Should we wrap it up?

[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I guess not, it's, I don't know, it's just really, it's just really good. [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I hope, I hope you guys have seen it because it is a blast. [SPEAKER_01]: Would love to know your thoughts and it's just... Where do you feel like telling us? [SPEAKER_02]: It's just so fun to watch dinosaurs do stuff. [SPEAKER_01]: It is just so fun. [SPEAKER_02]: I feel like, yeah, there's like the, the few classic, like, [SPEAKER_02]: little kid obsessions that little every little kid just like does become a facet.

[SPEAKER_02]: It's like one that I could never relate to in any capacity was like the car is thing. [SPEAKER_02]: When I would babysit, nanny, all that. [SPEAKER_02]: I've nannyed a little boy, love him dearly, was obsessed with cars, and it was like nothing, nothing could be more boring to me. [SPEAKER_02]: Can't understand that obsession at all. [SPEAKER_02]: But the other classic little kid of session of dinosaurs, I'm like, [SPEAKER_02]: Oh, yeah, I get that. [SPEAKER_02]: That is super cool.

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